When will you learn that brute force doesn't work?

TheGreenDoctorTheGreenDoctor Regular
edited January 2011 in Spurious Generalities
If you keep banning certain people, all it will do is just aggravate the situation. Anyways, its quite obvious that this is a real person posting, so I would consider the action taken on this user to be incorrect.
https://www.totse.info/bbs/showthread.php?t=10406
You all know that he'll just keep coming back, and that he'll eventually get tired of trying to get through to you guys politely, and will probably move onto more destructive ventures.

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  • DfgDfg Admin
    edited January 2011
    It was Spectral and the poster posting above is Spectral as well.
  • Darth BeaverDarth Beaver Meine Ehre heißt Treue
    edited January 2011
    It is either Spectral or his evil twin "Captain Obvious".
  • warbeastwarbeast Regular
    edited January 2011
    Getting his internet service cut off? I was thinking more along the lines of cutting his fingers off. Or his head. I figured that's what pakis do. But if he does anything especially illegal, Dfg can just contact the RCMP.

    Although I suspect Dfg and Spectral planned all this drama as a big joke.
  • DfgDfg Admin
    edited January 2011
    warbeast wrote: »
    Getting his internet service cut off? I was thinking more along the lines of cutting his fingers off. Or his head. I figured that's what pakis do. But if he does anything especially illegal, Dfg can just contact the RCMP.

    Although I suspect Dfg and Spectral planned all this drama as a big joke.

    I wish that was true :(. But it isn't.
  • edited January 2011
    warbeast wrote: »
    Getting his internet service cut off? I was thinking more along the lines of cutting his fingers off. Or his head. I figured that's what pakis do. But if he does anything especially illegal, Dfg can just contact the RCMP.

    Although I suspect Dfg and Spectral planned all this drama as a big joke.

    You think a Paki can pull off something that would require this much planning? fyi one tried to make a car bomb with some firecrackers and a can of gasoline.
  • JestAJestA Regular
    edited January 2011
    i am very tired of clicking on what seems to be a decent thread just to have it turn out to be yet another Fuck this user or help this user thread. it is anoying. will you guys stop this Drama or start a T.V. show on E about it. Thanks.
  • LuxJigabooLuxJigaboo Regular
    edited January 2011
    Sometimes brute force actually does work.
  • DirtySanchezDirtySanchez Regular
    edited January 2011
    If you keep banning certain people, all it will do is just aggravate the situation. Anyways, its quite obvious that this is a real person posting, so I would consider the action taken on this user to be incorrect.
    https://www.totse.info/bbs/showthread.php?t=10406
    You all know that he'll just keep coming back, and that he'll eventually get tired of trying to get through to you guys politely, and will probably move onto more destructive ventures.

    Let's say it doesn't work. Do you think letting him back over fear that he won't stop will solve anything? In his delusional mind he'll think he won and can get away with anything.
  • edited January 2011
    vozhde wrote: »
    Sometimes brute force actually does work.

    Ever since I first clashed horns with Spectral some 5 years ago I can assure you that brute force has never had much effect on him.
    Let's say it doesn't work. Do you think letting him back over fear that he won't stop will solve anything? In his delusional mind he'll think he won and can get away with anything.

    In his mind I suspect Spectral thinks he can get anyway with anything, regardless.

    So, can you learn to like lichen?
  • DirtySanchezDirtySanchez Regular
    edited January 2011
    Ever since I first clashed horns with Spectral some 5 years ago I can assure you that brute force has never had much effect on him.



    In his mind I suspect Spectral thinks he can get anyway with anything, regardless.

    So, can you learn to like lichen?

    I am listening but I think your idea to let spectral get away with anything all because we should fear his leet hax0r skills is fucking retarded:facepalm:
  • edited January 2011
    I am listening but I think your idea to let spectral get away with anything all because we should fear his leet hax0r skills is fucking retarded:facepalm:

    That's a rather sloppy statement given that at no point have I said that, or anything close to it.

    My point is that banning Spectral for not shutting his mouth is pointless because he'll only redouble his efforts. Allowing him to roam free may be an unsatisfactory solution for you, but I assure you it's the most pragmatic given the years of experience I've had with him.

    But apparently I'm talking a load of retarded bollocks, so I'll just let the uh... professionals... carry on implementing their highly effective plan which is working like clockwork as I type.

    Not a sockpuppet in sight, you see?
  • DfgDfg Admin
    edited January 2011
    That's a rather sloppy statement given that at no point have I said that, or anything close to it.

    My point is that banning Spectral for not shutting his mouth is pointless because he'll only redouble his efforts. Allowing him to roam free may be an unsatisfactory solution for you, but I assure you it's the most pragmatic given the years of experience I've had with him.

    But apparently I'm talking a load of retarded bollocks, so I'll just let the uh... professionals... carry on implementing their highly effective plan which is working like clockwork as I type.

    Not a sockpuppet in sight, you see?

    You do know if he just stayed off for a while like mayber 6 hours or so and didn't decide to go bitchy on us, we wouldn't mind your solution. The ban would have expired shortly anyway but no Spectral thinks he is something else.

    If he does continue I will go after him :).
  • edited January 2011
    Dfg wrote: »
    If he does continue I will go after him :).
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  • WendyWendy Semo-Regulars
    edited January 2011
    Dfg wrote: »
    ...The ban would have expired shortly anyway but no Spectral thinks he is something else....
    -SpectraL just sent me a message insisting that's not actually the case. He says that your behavior throughout this proves beyond all doubt for everybody that you would have kept toying with his account, playing with thread-bans/forum bans, inciting members against him needlessly, and generally being a butt-hurt Paki just because he got your ass booted off Zoklet's Bad Ideas because you were dead weight there. He says you're a huge liar and are completely transparent about it, too.

    He wanted me to post this:

    Looks like -SpectraL is going to be forced to step up his game. I imagine he'll start working on the new visitors as the first order of business, then he'll probably move to DNS poisioning tactics and DDosing the shit out of this place. After all, he must know when precisely when a new member joins, so it shouldn't be too hard at all to warn them off/shove them off a place which thinks it's perfectly fine to shit on the Totse legacy and "shut people up" for providing their opinions. He'll probably know exactly when the time is ripe to spam the shit out the boards, too, making the place look terrible to new visitors who might be duped into thinking they will be able to express themselves without a bunch of goons hiding behind their control panels pestering them and toying with their accounts and posts.


    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Please don't ban me, as MY IP address is not any that -SpectraL has ever used. I am new here, and would like to enjoy a forum where my posts and my account are not played with just because somebody doesn't like what I have to say. I also have some friends who also feel the same way with me on this. Thank you for your time.
  • DailyDaily Regular
    edited January 2011
    Felt good banning that faggot, brah.
  • TheGreenDoctorTheGreenDoctor Regular
    edited January 2011
    In before some poor new member gets banned for no reason. That will get traffic here for sure. :rolleyes: It looks like he succeeded In screwing things up. I think its time to drop the shields before innocent bystanders get hurt.
  • Darth BeaverDarth Beaver Meine Ehre heißt Treue
    edited January 2011
    In before some poor new member gets banned for no reason. That will get traffic here for sure. :rolleyes: It looks like he succeeded In screwing things up. I think its time to drop the shields before innocent bystanders get hurt.


    HI Spectral
  • DfgDfg Admin
    edited January 2011
    In before some poor new member gets banned for no reason. That will get traffic here for sure. :rolleyes: It looks like he succeeded In screwing things up. I think its time to drop the shields before innocent bystanders get hurt.

    Don't worry bans get reviewed and no new member goes around and makes a new group for spectral and start's Pm'ing users and spam the contact form.
  • TheGreenDoctorTheGreenDoctor Regular
    edited January 2011
    Oh, I get it. You just want to use spectrac as a scapegoat for reasons to ban people whose viewpoints you don't like. Whatever. I don't even know or care who the hell you are.
  • DirtySanchezDirtySanchez Regular
    edited January 2011
    Oh, I get it. You just want to use spectrac as a scapegoat for reasons to ban people whose viewpoints you don't like. Whatever. I don't even know or care who the hell you are.

    Nice ninja edit but come on dude stop drinking the spectral kool aid and look at the facts. It had nothing to do with his viewpoint. It had to do with him using alt accounts which is a bannable offense. Spamming the forum and derailing every thread he entered. The ban was going to expire but he continued to then sign up more sock puppets spam and threaten the site.
  • TheGreenDoctorTheGreenDoctor Regular
    edited January 2011
    ^^I redacted that as it was aimed at TheDarkRodent, but I though better of it. Anyway, wasn't he using alt accounts as well? Why isn't he banned also?
    Edit:
    I don't have a problem, but I do think it was still unfair. Again, I stated somewhere else that he was wrong to mak all those alt accounts, but it was incited by other issues that didn't seem to get handled correctly.
  • Darth BeaverDarth Beaver Meine Ehre heißt Treue
    edited January 2011
    ^^I redacted that as it was aimed at TheDarkRodent, but I though better of it. Anyway, wasn't he using alt accounts as well? Why isn't he banned also?
    Edit:
    I don't have a problem, but I do think it was still unfair. Again, I stated somewhere else that he was wrong to mak all those alt accounts, but it was incited by other issues that didn't seem to get handled correctly.

    So how is the new site coming? Is that why we haven't heard from DaGuru? Is he busy making all the htmls' and phps'?
  • edited January 2011
    So how is the new site coming? Is that why we haven't heard from DaGuru? Is he busy making all the htmls' and phps'?

    I guess DaGuru must be the brains of the operation
  • LuxJigabooLuxJigaboo Regular
    edited January 2011
    ^^I redacted that as it was aimed at TheDarkRodent, but I though better of it. Anyway, wasn't he using alt accounts as well? Why isn't he banned also?
    Edit:
    I don't have a problem, but I do think it was still unfair. Again, I stated somewhere else that he was wrong to mak all those alt accounts, but it was incited by other issues that didn't seem to get handled correctly.

    I agree with you that nobody should be banned for derailing threads. The first alternate account created by -SpectraL was because he claimed that his main account had been IP banned. That was understandable, and after Dfg fixed the problem, he banned the alternate account and told -SpectraL that he could post only with one account, -SpectraL reacted by making many more accounts.

    I agree that people were a bit too eager to ban him, but the ban was fair.
  • edited January 2011
    Word has it on the street that there is a VERY IMPORTANT blog post waiting for approval over on old Dfg's blog site. He'll DEFINITELY want to read it. It probably concerns the... errrr... inherent dangers... of exploiting children on the Internet and looking/downloading child/teen porn and shit, and what the authorities in Pakistan and elsewhere might think of that. They might want to have a look at his computer some day soon or something, or maybe contact his ISP to see what he's been up to... dunno. I'd say he'd be best to unban the two accounts before this gets much worse than it already is.

    I might add that there is NO proof in the IP-checker that -SpectraL has EVER been found to be using multiple accounts, and neither has DaGuru, and that the staff here is using false accusation not actually based on the IP records. Pain continues....

    And just like that, -SpectraL turns from faggot to awesome
  • MayberryMayberry Regular
    edited January 2011
    His faggotry is everywhere. Like a forest of faggot trees spreading their seeds blown by hot air.
  • edited January 2011
    Mayberry wrote: »
    His faggotry is everywhere. Like a forest of faggot trees spreading their seeds blown by hot air.

    Oak trees, Spruce trees, Faggot Trees... lichen will grow anywhere.

    Sorry, couldn't resist. :D
  • MantikoreMantikore Regular
    edited January 2011
    Brute force does work, but it does so in both ways, and the result is always temporary. On one side, the user works hard at making more and more alts, while on the other, the admins and their crew try to remove them. The battle is of intensity and duration. If a user makes more alts than the mods can remove them, youre going to have trouble. But usually, banning people can be really easy. But one thing Spec is good at is going on totse for hours and hours at a time. If anything, he can be good at keeping the pressure.

    Of course, in the end, nothing really matters, any kind of troublemaker will always get tired, yet still able to attack, and the mods will eventually clean up everything.
  • Mr.HappyMr.Happy Acolyte
    edited January 2011
    I humbly submit that, whilst endless patience, reasoning, warnings, blind eyes and dialogue failed to have any effect whatsoever on the core of users who seemed to exist solely to cause drama and rant about the administration, a few bannings solved the problem admirably at Zoklet.
  • LouisCypherLouisCypher Regular
    edited January 2011
    Sure, banning people solved all of Zoklets problems.:facepalm:

    Anyway, Good to see you here Mr. Happy. Contribute in the music forum please. I just replaced my burnt out mixer as well so i'll be posting a dnb mix hopefully in the next few days. you should make one too.
  • JestAJestA Regular
    edited January 2011
    Ay you guys should go smoke a joint , listen to the trippy music thread and calm down and throw this Banning peeps shit behind you,pleeeeeez. Its over!
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