Top 10 greatest leaders in modern history.
DirtySanchez
Regular
ITT name what you think were the greatest top 10 heads of state in modern history. Since I said modern let's go with anything from 1700 onward. My list goes as follows with no real order. I do not agree with everyone on this list but in my mind they're great leaders anyway.
- George Washington (America)
- Adolf Hitler (Germany)
- Vladimir Lenin (Russia)
- Josef Stalin (Russia)
- Francisco Franco (Spain)
- Benito Mussolini (Italy)
- Kim Il Sung (North Korea)
- Abraham Lincoln (America)
- Mao Tse Tung (China)
- Benjamin Netanyahu (Israel)
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I said heads of state:mad: Not company's nigger.
He's only ok. His father was a great but Kim Jong Il isn't that good.
Saddam Hussein
Vladimir Lenin
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (It's a shame he's so pro-Islam and spends TOO MUCH time on the zionist question)
Hugo Chávez
Adolf Hitler (Definitely had his faults which he could have easily avoided. No PC bullshit implied here)
Josef Stalin
Fidel Castro
Kim Jong-IL
Gaius Julius Caesar Augustus (not exactly modern but a great leader nevertheless)
Alfred Nobel
Marie Curie
Thomas Edison
George Westinghouse
Robert Oppenheimer
Albert Einstein
William Coolidge
James Watt
Alessandro Volta
Alexander Graham Bell
Alexander Turing
Stephen Hawking
Michio Kaku
Julius Ceasar
Abraham Lincoln
JFK
George Washington
Jesus
Shaka Zulu
Ṣalāḥ ad-Dīn Yūsuf ibn Ayyūb (Saladin)
Cleopatra
Spartacus
ftfy
People from the US use America to mean the US. Obviously other countries have their own bullshit systems for whatever they want to name. If you think their systems are valid, logically you must accept this system as valid, thus negating your faggoty point.
That's highly arguable. Didn't Jesus have something called followers? Jesus wasn't a military or political leader, he was a philosophical and spiritual leader for his time.
In any case maybe I'll add Ernst Stavro Blofeld. Seeing that you all like these characteristically evil leaders
lmao @ everyone choosing these evil dictators
She will destroy you with her army:
Jesus is head of the christan state
> Lenin
> Abraham lincoln
> Hugo Chavez
> Castro
> Luiz Lula da Silva
> Cleopatra
> moses
> yasser arafat
> Menachem Begin
I don't doubt that maybe Jesus in his years of traveling to east asia that he started a few spiritual-socialist states where he was the leader of buddhist kung-fu army.
So evil that their nations were well ran and they had a lot of support from their people, eh :rolleyes:
I can't wait to hear what your idea of "evil" is.
LMFAO! You said Cleopatra aswell, you really are fucking dense aren't you?
Cleopatra was a shit Egyptian Emperor, she was a weak leader who merely whored herself out to the Romans in exchange for them to fight her battles. Sounds typical of a shit-causing, misery bringing woman doesn't it? She split up Mark Anthony's marriage by whining, crying and screaming for him to stay in Egypt, thus making Mark seen as a traitor to Rome. Egypt fell into absolute shit under her and her unecessary warfaring.
Yeah but it was so much more easier to gain support back then, either through propaganda or at the end of a rifle haha. Think about the dictatorship of North Korea, if you DON'T support "the great leader" , they send you to jail! You always hear about those stupid tourist idiots getting arrested in North Korea and having to get clinton or whoever to rescue them.
That was the thing about a lot of those guys, stalin, hitler, kim jong il, is that they kill anyone who opposes them or doesnt support them.How can you say killing your non-supporters isn't evil? This is exactly what they do in Africa and this is why Africa is such a fucking warzone. They are wanna-be marxist' and communist who kill people who dont support them plain and simple.
Real stable politics!
Yea I'm just slightly amused by that story where she rolls out of the carpet that was sent to Caesar. Lmao bitch rollin out of a carpet.
OK you can see it that way but this is how I see it. The ends justifies the means. Sure Hitler did kill people but the numbers of people dead under both him and Stalin are both exaggerated but I wont go into that right now. In my opinion the death of people that results in the betterment of the state is justified.
Let's take Stalin as an example. You can oh he was a murdering madman but do you realize that if it weren't for Stalin you would be speaking German right now? This is especially true if you live in Europe.
What about the fact that he turned a backwards agrarian culture into a world superpower in a short period of time? Or how diseases like typhus and others that were killing thousands dropped to nothing with his health care plans? What about how more people then ever in Russia got an education under Stalin?
Am I saying he was perfect? No he made some huge mistakes. The purges of the military for one but in the end he did more good then bad and I find it's usually the stupid people in the world that look at people like Hitler and Stalin and just say they were evil without ever looking into it beyond that.
You realize that not everyone in the Gulag was some innocent angel right? The vast majority were criminals not political opponents. As far as political opponents being there the problem was these people wanted to destroy the system and were working to topple the government. Of course they needed to be stopped. Doing some evil for a lot of good is justified. Plus had the soviet Union never came people would have continued starving under the Czar.
anyways
those things dont apply to modern day times, this doing evil for a lot of good. you can see the results in africa, asia, the middle east and all the third world socialist states. Oh yea, those are real productive and stable countries huh?
So called evils commited against people such as murder and enslavement are never accepted by anyone and always demand blood. If any modern day western political system were to ever adapt such policies, ones say similiar to the gulag camps slave labour force - there would be riots and civil chaos overnight. You would be toast. Those ideologies involving enslavement, even of criminals will never be accepted in a civilized societies political system and will cause a revolt with an armed populace.
Ever heard of a country called China? The soviet union didn't fall that long ago either. I'd say Russia under kruschev was pretty stable and productive. BTW North Korea would be well off if the whole fucking world didn't impose sanctions on them. The fact there as powerful as they are with 1 ally and very few natural resources is amazing.
While china is making good economic gains in the world due to its authoritarian control over its own economy and labor force, living standards for people are far higher in the western world. It's a shame china disregards human rights, they have a lot of potential.
Representative and direct democracy are failed ways to run a government. Besides the stupidity of the masses nothing ever gets done in a democracy. Look at where it's gotten America. Our country is going down the shitter while China is about to eclipse our power on the world stage.