Deluded leftists

NegrophobeNegrophobe Regular
edited June 2011 in Spurious Generalities
This is the thread for destroying the notions that leftists adhere to, in regards to certain historical figures. Leftists typically always sympathize with the crooks and degenerates and hold them up as martyrs towards their warped political ideas, and demonize the clear headed, traditional and cultured as evil.



I don't know where or how the idea came about that Guy Fawkes was an anarchist or sympathetic to anarchist causes. It seems to me that those who've just watched V for Vendetta are incapable of even doing a google search to see the true historical character Guy was and what he stood for. Do you wear those masks because you think Fawkes was anti-establishment? If so that is silly, Guy Fawkes just wanted a different kind of establishment. Guy Fawkes was a Clerical Fascist, now you know!

Pacifist, anti-racists, why hail Gandhi up as a beacon of tolerence and love? Are you unaware that Gandhi despised negroes and was an Indian supremacist? Think he's still an example of brotherly love? He also had contempt for lower-caste Indians. Here alone is Gandhi's opinion alone on White nationalistic racial separation, Gandhi wrote in his Indian Opinion of 24 September 1903:

"We believe as much in the purity of race as we think they do, only we
believe that they would best serve these interests, which are as dear to us as to them, by advocating the purity of all races, and not one alone. We believe also that the white race of South Africa should be the predominating race."
- MK Gandhi, Indian Opinion, 24 September 1903

And there are plenty more racist sentiments where that came from:
(1) The Collected Works of Mahatma Gandhi, Ahmedabad, 1963, Volume II p. 74


(2) The Collected Works of Mahatma Gandhi, Ahmedabad, 1963, Volume IV p. 193


(3) MK Gandhi, Indian Opinion, 18 March 1905


(4) MK Gandhi, Indian Opinion, 9 September 1905


(5) MK Gandhi, Indian Opinion, 9 September 1905


(6) MK Gandhi, Letter to "The Times," London, 12 November, 1906, as
reproduced on 'The Complete Site on Mathatma Gandhi,'
http://www.mkgandhi.org/cwm/vol6/ch060.htm


(7) MK Gandhi, Indian Opinion, 8-6-1907, 'New Obnoxious Law', as reproduced
at 'The Complete Site on Mathatma Gandhi,'
http://www.mkgandhi.org/cwm/vol6/ch409.htm


(8) MK Gandhi, Indian Opinion, 8-6-1907, 'New Obnoxious Law', as reproduced
at 'The Complete Site on Mathatma Gandhi,'
http://www.mkgandhi.org/cwm/vol6/ch409.htm


(9) MK Gandhi, Indian Opinion, 8-6-1907, 'New Obnoxious Law', as reproduced
at 'The Complete Site on Mathatma Gandhi,'
http://www.mkgandhi.org/cwm/vol6/ch409.htm


(10) MK Gandhi, Memoirs of the Indian Stretcher Bearer Corps, as published in
Indian Opinion, 28-7-1906, and reproduced on 'The Complete Site on Mathatma
Gandhi,' http://www.mkgandhi.org/cwm/vol5/ch262.htm


(11) MK Gandhi, Memoirs of the Indian Stretcher Bearer Corps, as published in
Indian Opinion, 28-7-1906, and reproduced on 'The Complete Site on Mathatma
Gandhi,' http://www.mkgandhi.org/cwm/vol5/ch262.htm


(12) MK Gandhi, Collected Works, memoirs of the Indian Stretcher Bearer
Corps, as published in Indian Opinion, 28-7-1906, and reproduced on 'The Complete
Site on Mathatma Gandhi,' http://www.mkgandhi.org/cwm/vol5/ch262.htm


(13) James D. Hunt, Gandhi and the Black People of South Africa, Shaw
University


and reproduced on 'The Complete Site on Mathatma Gandhi,'
http://www.mkgandhi.org/articles/jamesdhunt.htm


(14) James D. Hunt, Gandhi and the Black People of South Africa, Shaw
University


and reproduced on 'The Complete Site on Mathatma Gandhi,'
http://www.mkgandhi.org/articles/jamesdhunt.htm


(15) James D. Hunt, Gandhi and the Black People of South Africa, Shaw
University


and reproduced on 'The Complete Site on Mathatma Gandhi,'
http://www.mkgandhi.org/articles/jamesdhunt.htm


(16) James D. Hunt, Gandhi and the Black People of South Africa, Shaw
University


and reproduced on 'The Complete Site on Mathatma Gandhi,'
http://www.mkgandhi.org/articles/jamesdhunt.htm

(17) B. R. Nanda, Mahatma Gandhi - A Biography, page 105, The Official
Mahatma Gandhi eArchive, Mahatma Gandhi Foundation - India,
http://www.mahatma.org.in/books/showbook.jsp?link=og&book=og0003&id=105&lang=en&file=3418&cat=books

(18) MK Gandhi, Letter to W.T. STEAD, London, 16 November 16, 1906, from a
photostat of the typewritten office copy: S.N. 4584, as reproduced at 'The
Complete Site on Mathatma Gandhi,' http://www.mkgandhi.org/cwm/vol6/ch092.htm


(19) MK Gandhi, The Collected Works of Mahatma Gandhi - Volume III, page 337,
The Official Mahatma Gandhi eArchive, Mahatma Gandhi Foundation - India,
http://www.mahatma.org.in/books/showbook.jsp?link=bg&book=bg0015&id=358&lang=en&file=1750&cat=books

(20) MK Gandhi, The Collected Works of Mahatma Gandhi, Volume III, page 285,
The Official Mahatma Gandhi eArchive, Mahatma Gandhi Foundation - India,
http://www.mahatma.org.in/books/showbook.jsp?link=bg&book=bg0015&id=306&lang=en&file=1698&cat=books

(21) Mahadev Desai , Day to day with Gandhi - Volume II, page 291, The
Official Mahatma Gandhi eArchive, Mahatma Gandhi Foundation - India,
http://www.mahatma.org.in/books/showbook.jsp?link=bg&book=bg0015&id=36&lang=en&file=1428&cat=books


(22) MK Gandhi, The Hindu-Muslim Unity, page 45, The Official Mahatma Gandhie Archive, Mahatma Gandhi Foundation - India,
http://www.mahatma.org.in/books/showbook.jsp?link=bg&book=bg0020&id=61&lang=en&file=7426&cat=books

(23) MK Gandhi, Indian Opinion, 25 March 1905


(24) MK Gandhi, Indian Opinion, 24 March 1906


(25) MK Gandhi, Indian Opinion, 2 June 1906


(26) MK Gandhi, Indian Opinion, 15 February 1905


(27) MK Gandhi, Indian Opinion, 24 September 1903


(28) MK Gandhi, Indian Opinion,24 December 1903

Not convinced? Tell me, do you know who these friends of Ghandi are?
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Mahatma Gandhi was a negrophobic racist, now you know!


Now, this is one of the feminist movement's and their pussy-whipped bleating manginas' favourite icons, whom they hold in high esteem as a figure of womanly achievement and loving care. So, tell me, why was converting the sick and the poor considered by Teresa to be a higher priority than providing for their actual needs? Not to mention she believed that human suffering was beneficial and even "beautiful". You don't have to take my word for it, she says so herself:
I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people.

Or we can look to the anecdote of the time when Teresa told a patient who was diagnosed with terminal cancer, who was dying in extreme pain, that he should consider himself fortunate: "You are suffering like Christ on the cross. So Jesus must be kissing you." (She freely related his reply, which she seemed not to realize was meant as a putdown: "Then please tell him to stop kissing me.") Hitchens has documented in great detail, how Teresa considered suffering to be beneficial and was the reason that she kept her clinics so rudimentary - not so that sick people could be cured, but so they could get closer to God through their suffering.

Critics such as Michael Hakeem put it in a way that is straight to the point when he said, "Mother Teresa is thoroughly saturated with a primitive fundamentalist religious worldview that sees pain, hardship, and suffering as ennobling experiences and a beautiful expression of affiliation with Jesus Christ and his ordeal on the cross." To her mind, they were not evils to be relieved, but blessings to be glorified.

Teresa's clinics were run merely as conversion factories and were in poor sanitary conditions, despite millions of donations to them. Ex-volunteers have confirmed that Teresa taught her followers to secretly baptize patients who were dying or were not aware of what was happening to them, all done without their consent. Ex-volunteer Susan Shields wrote, "Material aid was a means of reaching their souls, of showing the poor that God loved them... Secrecy was important so that it would not come to be known that Mother Teresa's sisters were baptizing Hindus and Moslems."

There's much more information on the matter out there for you to search that contradicts the touted lies of the loving care of Teresa, but it should be clear from what I've already shown here is far from what is proclaimed of her. Teresa was a sadist, now you know!



You've probably seen this man's face everywhere:
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You see it on cheap t-shirts made in China, mugs and all sorts of various accessories. Typically by liberal college students and Trotsykites. It seems funny when you consider that Che Guevara is the very antit-hesis of almost everything the modern left idolises and holds dear. He was a pro-nuclear Stalinist and he disliked blacks, as well as homosexuals and rock music.
Along the way, I had the opportunity to pass through the dominions of the United Fruit, convincing me once again of just how terrible these capitalist octopuses are. I have sworn before a picture of the old and mourned comrade Stalin that I won't rest until I see these capitalist octopuses annihilated.
I am not Christ or a philanthropist, old lady, I am all the contrary of a Christ.... I fight for the things I believe in, with all the weapons at my disposal and try to leave the other man dead so that I don't get nailed to a cross or any other place.
The black is indolent and a dreamer; spending his meager wage on frivolity or drink; the European has a tradition of work and saving, which has pursued him as far as this corner of America and drives him to advance himself, even independently of his own individual aspirations.
We’re going to do for blacks exactly what blacks did for the revolution. By which I mean: nothing

Che adopted the view from the Soviets, that homosexuality was a phenomenon of indulgent bourgeois society that would not exist in a pure communist state. Che regarded homosexuals as deviant and decadent.

Che was a racist, homophobic stalinist, now you know!





Speaking of communists, the best one of all is Karl Marx himself who disliked negroes and believed that the mestizos were unworthy of Mexico, in addition to not being very fond of slavs. Some have even suggested that Karl Marx was a self-hating jew and anti-semite, although it is clear that actually isn't true, he is just attacking the judaic religion for its bourgeois elements and the bourgeois jews.

Most of what we know about Marx's personal, as opposed to published, views can be gleaned from the Marx-Engels correspondence. However, one has to be careful in dealing with published editions of this correspondence. A German socialist edition, edited by Bebel and Bernstein, and published in Berlin in 1927-32, tones down many of Marx's slurs. Editions published in Moscow and in post-war East Germany also should be handled with care. This is of course no coincidence that regions were and still are under influences of communism.

One of the principal victims of Marx's slurs was Ferdinand Lassalle, a rival German-Jewish socialist with whom Marx worked from time to time. In a letter to Engels dated 30 July 1862, Marx wrote that "the Jewish Nigger, Lassalle" was fortunately leaving London that weekend to return to Germany, adding:
It is now absolutely clear to me that, as both the shape of his head and his hair texture shows -- he descends from the Negroes who joined Moses' flight from Egypt (unless his mother or grandmother on the paternal side hybridized with a Nigger). Now this combination of Germanness and Jewishness with a primary Negro substance necessarily creates a strange product. The pushiness of this fellow is also Niggerish.

It's of interest that one of Marx's daughters Laura married Paul Lafargue in 1845. Marx had done everything possible to prevent the marriage, on account of Lafargue's small portion of Negro blood. But when Lafargue's wealthy parents promised a groom's dowry of 100,000 francs, Marx's attitude reversed. However, when the gift did not materialize, Marx reverted to racist slurs against his daughter's husband. Marx remarked that one of his daughters was doing her bit in solving the color question by marrying "a nigger". He often referred to Lafargue as "the little Negro" or as "the Gorilla". When Lafargue decided to run in the municipal Paris elections, Engels too remarked that this was appropriate since the district contained the Paris Zoo, and "a nigger is a degree nearer to the animal kingdom than the rest of us".

Karl Marx also supported the idea of a Greater German Empire extending over the "lumpengesindle" (rabble) to the east. Many examples of this attitude are quoted in Nathaniel Weyl's stunning book Karl Marx: Racist, Arlington House, 1979.



As we can see just briefly, reading some of Marx's & Engel's (more so) works, there was no 'equality of men' hippy loving, trotskyite bullshit that is spoken by many of the so-called 'communists' today. Even Lenin believed in national identity to a degree.

Karl Marx was a racist, now you know!

Comments

  • GoldenVGoldenV Regular
    edited June 2011
    Blahblahblah is every thread on this shitty forum just silly little 13 year olds thinking they're hardcore cos they say nigger and pretend to hate other races and try to hate on the left wing.
  • NegrophobeNegrophobe Regular
    edited June 2011
    You're clearly a typical, uncultured, waste of space and arrogant to boot. No where in that thread did I "pretend to hate" on any other race. It doesn't take a lot of trying on anyone's part to hate the left wing, a lot of it is brought on by their own hostility and arrogance.

    As if what you think matters.
  • GoldenVGoldenV Regular
    edited June 2011
    Grow up.
  • NegrophobeNegrophobe Regular
    edited June 2011
    Take your own advice.
  • GoldenVGoldenV Regular
    edited June 2011
    If I wanted my own comeback I'd wipe it off your moms chin.
  • NegrophobeNegrophobe Regular
    edited June 2011
    I'm sure you've been told that one many times, reject, but it's not really insulting to me, nor is it original or funny, or even true. Stop acting as if you leave your house for any other reason than to buy shit weed and collect your dole money.
  • GoldenVGoldenV Regular
    edited June 2011
    It clearly is true, she aint bad value.
  • NegrophobeNegrophobe Regular
    edited June 2011
    Well, she is where I get my good looks from.

    As for regarding her value, I suppose it'd be less degrading than your mother, who has to give out recession specials*, because no one would go near "her" otherwise. But nevertheless, we know this is just cute fantasy on your part.


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  • GoldenVGoldenV Regular
    edited June 2011
    Lol u mad.
  • GoldenVGoldenV Regular
    edited June 2011
    But in all honesty you are by far and away the least original person ever, its not even fun to annoy you, its just a little bit sad you copying what I say.
  • NegrophobeNegrophobe Regular
    edited June 2011
    Why would I be mad? I already know all women are whores, including my mother, some just have better gigs than others. Why don't you concede the same about your father/mother? I'm not going to make anymore fun of it if you do, I don't care that much.
  • NegrophobeNegrophobe Regular
    edited June 2011
    GoldenV wrote: »
    But in all honesty you are by far and away the least original person ever, its not even fun to annoy you, its just a little bit sad you copying what I say.

    Like I said, as if what you think matters. It's cute, if a little bit naive that you think you do matter. You're an awful troll, reject, and an attention whore at that.
  • GoldenVGoldenV Regular
    edited June 2011
    I like how you're so proud to call me reject, as if my identity was a secret.
  • NegrophobeNegrophobe Regular
    edited June 2011
    Not proud or surprised. Why wouldn't I call you reject, the name fits well.
  • GoldenVGoldenV Regular
    edited June 2011
    Hahaha you're such a gimp. Anyway, I'll reconverse with you whence you achieve some original thought and make it past 14.
  • NegrophobeNegrophobe Regular
    edited June 2011
    Gimp? Jesus christ, you're such a homo.
  • NegrophobeNegrophobe Regular
    edited June 2011
    I actually will concede, this was a thread that could be read on any website, and totse really isn't all it's made out to be; not much better than zoklet. You're still a tard tho.
  • Hammer TankHammer Tank Regular
    edited June 2011
    golden, you're a fuckin idiot, how does he hate on race at all in the OP?? actually quite the opposite, he ridicules people based on their racism. go fuck yourself, loser. also I think the right gets much more hate than the left here.
  • GoldenVGoldenV Regular
    edited June 2011
    For a start his username is negrophobe and, well, thats where I stopped reading cos I knew itd be bullshit.
  • NegrophobeNegrophobe Regular
    edited June 2011
    Actually I'm ridiculing leftists for holding up these people as icons when they contrast with everything leftists supposedly stand for; I am racist. I'm neither right wing or left wing, I'm third positionist. The best thing to do with people like GoldenV is to let him wallow in his own filth, he's insignificant.
  • RemadERemadE Global Moderator
    edited June 2011
    Fuck Che!

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    That said, interesting to see my &T advertising run photos were used again :o
  • NegrophobeNegrophobe Regular
    edited June 2011
    RemadE wrote: »
    That said, interesting to see my &T advertising run photos were used again :o

    What can I say, his mother/father must get around.


    I wonder what peoples' reaction would be if you were to wear a t-shirt with Oswald Mosley on it, in the same way that people wear t-shirts with Che on them.
  • FONFON Regular
    edited June 2011
    Some people have entirely too much spare time.
  • edited June 2011
    FON wrote: »
    Some people have entirely too much spare time.

    Yep, I knew one guy who was trained as a doctor but adopted a deluded and naive world view and joined a failed lawyer in overthrowing a general who ruled a Caribbean country.
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