You Do Not Have to Say the Pledge of Allegiance
The Supreme Court of the United States ruled in West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943) that it is unconstitutional, on principles of freedom of religion, freedom of speech, due process, and equal protection, to compel anyone to salute the American Flag or to recite the Pledge of Allegiance.
When I was in high school (I'm in my twenties) in Texas, the general belief was that students were required to stand, salute, and recite the Pledge of Allegiance. When challenged, staff would refer to "state law", by which they meant the Texas Education Code. This and any similar things in other states are, of course, superceded by the SCOTUS ruling. The section linked was added in 1995 and amended in 2003, despite a conflicting, trumping decision from long before.
I've been putting off writing something for this for several years. Now that I've finally gotten around to it, it came out nicely. I don't know if anyone's a student here or if it's just the same group of [former] kidiots, but I figured TOTSE would like it, anyway.
I said: "I found the Pledge to be:" -- this obviously means that what follows is my opinion. After elaborating the reasons for my decision not to stand and recite the Pledge, I proposed that people refuse to say it not for my personal reasons, but to increase awareness of and respect for the right.
If this were "old news" every high school I went to wouldn't have been full of teachers and ass principals who assumed I was required to recite the Pledge.
What do you do with yourself, General? Do you spend your life pretending to be a retard online? Does that help you get off at night?
Talk about a retard, you can't even read what you write. The only place on this page the phrase "I found the Pledge to be" appears in in your second post. Also it is old news, really old news, being as the ruling is from 1943. Hell, I can recall in 1973 (in 6th grade) we had a classmate who was an American citizen but who's father as born in Canada. His name was Tony Smith and every morning he would refuse to recite the pledge stating that he was more loyal to Canada than the U.S. and that his father told him that according the the Supreme Court he did not have to.
So yeah Jack, who is the retard here?
In the article, dumbshit, the motherfucking article. http://uiu.me/xSD.png
That would be the state legislators who introduced code in 1995 that conflicted with a long-standing SCOTUS decision and the state full of people who never questioned or challenged it, even though it was supposedly well-known as recently as 1973 that no one has to say the Pledge if they don't want to. I wouldn't have taken the time to write all that shit if it were obvious, which is why I spent two paragraphs establishing that it isn't as well-known as it should be.
Apparently it wasn't obvious to you till you read this article and judging by the people that responded and now myself everyone but YOU knew this. Hell I never said the pledge but would get funny looks all the time for not reciting the pledge. I knew you didn't have to at age 9 and didn't say it until I joined the Military 9 years later in 2008. Now I'm out I am going to go back to refusing to say it. Its amazing what you can learn when you pay attention in school Jack. They taught this stuff back in third or fourth grade.
EDIT: Oh snap my other personality TheDarkRodent beat me to the punch.
We do have to cut Jack some slack, after all he was raised in Texas and that is like having a disability.
True true. He was brainwashed into the Bible belt. Sad really... he never had a chance. I'd cry for him but hes most likely a cock sucking alter boy and you know how I dislike religion.
Did I say anyone ITT didn't know this? Look who can't read now.*
I wrote it, idiot. I've known this practically since I was on the internet but only more recently realized what a hopeless stupid twat everyone is that they need to be reminded of things like this, which shouldn't even need a SCOTUS ruling about it. Is the whole point to "educate" you as if you didn't know? No, the sort of person who goes on TOTSE would already know this. Maybe you'd be interested in the political opinion, or the writing per se, or the proposal.
You sure do talk a lot about failure at reading for someone who can't read.
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Really? Jack you should just leave this thread while you still have a shred of dignity. This shit blew up in your dumb Texas face and you are too stupid to grab a napkin and wipe it off.
You're funny. You think you're a "grand master troll" and what's your tactic? Making plainly false statements and hoping no one will think about them at all? Yeah that's real clever. :rolleyes:
That is poor diversion there Jack. I asked you what you were right about ITT and your only response is to reply to another thread.
So again, what are you right about ITT?
He is not mad he is spitting nails LOL.
The fact that this thread belongs here according to the forum description.
How do you call yourself a troll? You didn't even realize I wrote the article until halfway through the thread. I thought good trolls were supposed to be smart.
Please point out where I ever called myself a troll there Tex. And posting an article you wrote and put on that shit excuse for a website that has to do with your personal political opinion does not belong in the forum regardless of your misinterpretation of the forum description.
But of course what can we expect from a dumbass Texan who just clued into what I have known since before your mom peed blood.
I challenge every member of Totse to match my $2.00. If just 360 members will donate $2.00 we can send him to China (one way) for Christmas.
and on a nother time i held up the confederate battle flag
If it means getting rid of Tacho I'll donate 50.00 dollars.
Hey can you guys send me to Russia instead? I hear Pburg is nice.
Russia is not communist anymore you brain dead wanna be Texan.
100.00 dollars to get rid of this Communist Felon Nigger.
I'll donate $100 to get rid of him.
I changed how much I would donate too. So now its 200 dollars to get rid of that crazy Felon Communist Nigger as well.
Bullets or assembly of a rifle?
Donation sent. Hopefully, others will contribute as well. He needs to go ASAP.
If you find it please let me know. You might get gang raped and contract GRIDS from Tacho and I'll be your backup with my pistol and rifle.
Now the National Anthem you better stand your ass up and respect that.
And what if I don't?
This isn't happening fast enough. I can't stand him being on the same continent as me for much longer.
Its because hes a nigger.
I'm not your English teacher, cunt.
I'll humour you though, just in case you'll manage to take some criticism and not be a sarcastic bag of dicks.
Passive syntax, reads poorly.
Your whole piece is riddled with passive syntax; it reads broken.
I'm glad you're not one of those people who says vague things and never backs them up.
Holy run on semicolons batman!.
The police part, you've already seen and replied to in a much better way on your blog.
There are many more legitimate police who do a legitimate job.You can't blame a social institution for the inherent human faults that will inevitably manifest.It's the same in every fucking country in the world, people abuse power.You cannot screen for this.You can't tell a tree has shit genetics until you let it grow, then you cut it down.
Hey, pointing out specifics is the burden you take on when you decide to criticize something like this.
I didn't find so many as to called it "riddled" but I did find several unnecessary uses of the passive voice. There are some there that I would defend as necessary, the subject being indeterminate, but some could do with rewriting.
If you mean the last bit, that was really just an "etc." sort of thing. One can find plenty of stories about the police doing horrid things and never properly answering for them. I wasn't going to list *all* of them because that was the point of only the one paragraph. But, now that you mention it, I think I might find more stories and link each word in the last clause to a story, because I think it's funny when people do that.
A semicolon is how you join independent clauses without using a conjunction or making a separate sentence. I thought that separate sentences might seem too repetitive, and that the semicolons would help it flow better, while the last sentence separated its concept from the others, and provided a sense of finality. Any idea how I can accomplish that better?
It's true that there are legitimate police, but I think they lose credibility as such, in that they fail to take action against the ones who aren't legitimate. If there are abusive/corrupt police, the honest ones do nothing to stop them, and the judicial system -- to be fair, not always -- supports them in their violations of human rights, how can one say that we should only blame the corrupt police? They are the origin of the problem, but many groups are to blame for its continuation. I think it's also true that power corrupts. Maybe it is as impossible as you imply that this sort of thing will happen. In any case, I only meant to say that the current state of the legal and law enforcement systems in the U.S. doesn't seem to support the claim of liberty and justice.
On trt chat a username by the name of Jack admitted to me he was Tacho and then a user by the name of Jack on here acts like Tacho. *Waiting for bourgeois and race wars to be sure however.* That and he doesn't deny it.
Well, seeing as how I'm not risking anything here, it's at least fun to let you guys think it.