Tramadol. If you don't know what it is look it up.
-Music is better
-Takes away headaches and other pain
-I can last drastically longer at sex
-Some difficulty swallowing (mostly dry foods, some water helps)
-I have to take 2 to get to my desired level of high
-Makes me hungry
Anybody else love this stuff? and whats the going street price?
That is the pros and cons of every opioid man.
TLV....check your PM's.
It is a subtle, relaxing, unique high and it mixes well with benzos (diazepam especially IME).
wtf, I tagged it with child porn. I have been tagging all my threads like that.
And I like the relaxing buzz I get from it, I'm not a big druggie. Plus one of the "Side effects" is I can last at least twice as long at sex.
It's a step in the right direction. O-des-methyltramadol didn't have the excellent effects I was hoping for/expecting. But there has to be a way to tweek it somehow....
Maybe for Terrence McKenna, but I personally don't like being trapped in a psychiatric hospital while suffering uncontrollable chest spasms and jimmy legs.:mad:
I wouldn't say benzos have way worse w/d symptoms than op(iates/ods).
Also my one experience with tramadol sucked and I wouldn't take it again unless it was free or I got a script. Even then I wouldn't be all that excited.
My lone experience was back in high school, I took 400mg, and slept through my classes, being yelled at by teachers, until 3rd period where I ran off and puked in the bathroom. I had started off with 200mg and was unimpressed so I took more 100mg more and 20 minutes later the other 100mg because I was still disappointed with it.
I don't understand how this could be anyone's drug of choice.
Well, you are only risking idiopathic seizures at high high doses, particularly if you are predisposed to seizures in the first place. It isn't any real danger in common doses.
But that is why you mix with diazepam, it's an anticonvulsant
Trams are real good for getting off stronger opiates too, but if you get hooked on them also the withdrawals are pretty bad. It affects you much more emotionally than normal ope W/D's. Its because of the lack of both endorphins and serotonin, I wonder if 5-HTP would help.
Maybe because my ~60 mg a day oxy habit just wasn't such a big deal, but the tramadol and benzo withdrawal turned me into a spineless piece of shit like nothing I ever experienced.
It's just seemed less like cravings and more of that "I want to jump out of my skin".....
Beware of the rash.
Fuck Lamictal, that shit didn't do shit for me.:mad:
Even high is definitely not with every opiate. and i was just explain my experiences. not everyone has the same side effects and effects.
And ive been taking about 250mg doses and it gets me to where i want to go. I get kinda tired but not really sleepy unless i was already tired. Plus its cheap.
Anyone that has had a decent benzo addiction will tell you it doesn't compare to opiate WD. Benzo WD lasts so much longer and the insomnia of that many days will drive you insane. The WD I would compare it to is a long standing alcohol addiction. Which makes sense being they affect the same receptors.
All I know is 60 mg of oxy a day, which really isn't much, was bearable, mostly just diarrhea and nausea. 10 mg of xanax a day, which still isn't much, had me in mild convulsions. Also, the sweats were worse on benzoes. I had constant hyperthermia, and was sweating balls, even if I felt cold and was shivering, which I really don't get with opioids, unlike most people. But like I said, I wasn't doing much.
But people do die while w/d'ing from opiates. There are typically some other complications but if it weren't for the w/ds they probably would have survived. Not to mention they wouldn't be in a position to have so many other health problems due to opiate addiction.
10mg xanax is a lot more than 60mg oxy. 10mg xanax a day and I would do absolutely nothing with my life; I wouldn't remember doing it either. 60mg oxy and I'd be high for like 4 hours.