Interesting Users from Totse
Harper Reed was a totse member:
This is a weird source page.. hope it connects for you
http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-cto-harper-reed-talktalk-hack-hacking-culture-2015-11?r=UK&IR=T
"Reed has had his own run-ins with the law. In a post on Medium talking about his background in hacker culture, Reed recalls a visit from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms while he was at school, after he told another student how to make a bomb — something he'd learned on an online anarchist bulletin board."
The Original source of the website it refers to is BackChannel
https://medium.com/backchannel/how-hacking-helped-me-become-obama-s-cto-c4895cac372e#.slr3kfem5
That’s how I first discovered bulletin boards. A BBS enables computers to communicate with each other using modems over telephone lines. When I was 12, I was looking through an issue of Computer Shopper magazine, which I used to obsessively pore over even though it was terrible, and I found a listing for something called TOTSE, or “Temple of the Screaming Electron.”
Wow. That's pretty impressive. Obama hired him? I checked several sites on several search engines.. it's all over the place.
Pretty wild.
I was also watching a History Channel on Arron Swartz as well. I noticed you guys have a link to reddit. Interesting.
This is a weird source page.. hope it connects for you
http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-cto-harper-reed-talktalk-hack-hacking-culture-2015-11?r=UK&IR=T
"Reed has had his own run-ins with the law. In a post on Medium talking about his background in hacker culture, Reed recalls a visit from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms while he was at school, after he told another student how to make a bomb — something he'd learned on an online anarchist bulletin board."
The Original source of the website it refers to is BackChannel
https://medium.com/backchannel/how-hacking-helped-me-become-obama-s-cto-c4895cac372e#.slr3kfem5
That’s how I first discovered bulletin boards. A BBS enables computers to communicate with each other using modems over telephone lines. When I was 12, I was looking through an issue of Computer Shopper magazine, which I used to obsessively pore over even though it was terrible, and I found a listing for something called TOTSE, or “Temple of the Screaming Electron.”
Wow. That's pretty impressive. Obama hired him? I checked several sites on several search engines.. it's all over the place.
Pretty wild.
I was also watching a History Channel on Arron Swartz as well. I noticed you guys have a link to reddit. Interesting.
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anyways his linkedin page says he work for EA Sports but in this video he's talking about building the Alpha Tracking System which I guess keeps people from being sued when hiring the wrong people.
https://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&fr=crmas&p=Jeff+Hunter+EA+Sports
It also says (Interestingly) that he worked at Bridgewater and Associate which James Comey also worked at in 2013. O Comey was hired by Obama as head of FBI as the director. And Jeff went to Occidental as did Obama. Interesting. I see Obama goes out to San Francisco a lot to visit the Dot Com guys for campaign money.
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 93 13:31:21 PDT
From: [email protected]
Subject: File 1--Unfair Newspaper Article on BBS Network & Replies
((MODERATORS' NOTE: The Contra Costa Times printed a page one story on
NIRVANAnet, a network of a half-dozen BBSes in California's Bay Area.
The story focused on the potential "criminal activity" of the boards,
using the general collection of ASCII "anarchist" and "phreak/hack"
files as the basis. Below is the story that triggered the controversy
and some of the letters that were sent in response)).
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Here is the original story, again, with all the replies and reactions
we have collected. Many of these have already been submitted to the
newspaper (Contra Costa Times).
Date--1993-07-28,12:11
From--DEMENTED PIMIENTO
To--ALL
Subject--NIRVANAnet(tm) a "rogue n
MODEM OPERANDI: Tips on crime go on-line
by: Michael Liedtke
staff writer for the Contra Costa Times
Wednesday, July 28, 1993 (p. 1)
Tips on how to commit fraud, murder and other mayhem are just a phone
call away in the Bay Area, courtesy of rabble-rousing electronic
bulletin boards that turn the personal computer into a clearinghouse
for crime.
Using the First Amendment as a legal shield, a group of electronic
bulletin boards in the Bay Area has created an information network
providing criminal insights to anyone with a phone, personal computer
and modem.
Essentially, these computer forums, known as bulletin board services,
are electronic libraries. While some computer bulletin boards are
limited to paying subscribers, the rebel network distributing criminal
expertise is open to everyone, free of charge.
Most of the bulletin board files can be fetched over phone lines and
brought into the caller's home. In turn, callers to the bulletin
boards are encouraged to send in files, so the systems can accumulate
advice from experts and novices.
More than 45,000 computer users have called an underground Bay Area
bulletin board, known as "Lied Unlimited," that offers a roguish
gallery of information. File titles include:
o "How to Make Your Own Valid American Express Card"
o "How to Rob a Bank"
o "How to Break Into Houses"
o "Stealing Toyotas and What to Do With Them"
o "Simple Way to Make a Car Go BOOM!"
o "Twenty-two Ways to Kill"
The bulletin boards also have other categories offering
more-mainstream advice and entertainment, but they appear to be
primarily interested in promoting disorder.
In a self-description appearing on a bulletin board review, Lied
Unlimited said it tries to focus "on political realities. The point
being that this reality is created by consensus, and the only way to
change the reality is to change the consensus."
Lies Unlimited plans to shut down today and reopen next month after
the system operator, listed a Mick Freen, moves from South San
Francisco, to Salt Lake City. Mischievous information similar to Lies
Unlimited's archives remains available on several other Bay Area
bulletin boards, including a Walnut Creek-based system known as "And
the Temple of the Screaming Electron."
Based on computer files retrieved by the Times, other contributors in
this unorthodox network include "My Dog Bit Jesus" in Berkeley,
"realitycheck," in Albany, "Burn This Flag" in San Jose and "The New
Dork Sublime" in San Francisco.
Among them, the bulletin boards offer hundreds of files providing
instructions on credit card fraud, money laundering, mail fraud,
counterfeiting, drug smuggling, cable-tv theft, bomb- making and
murder.
The Time left electronic messages on several of those bulletin boards
seeking interviews with the system operators. None of the operators
responded by late Tuesday.
Virtually anyone who understands how to use a computer and modem can
tap into the rogue bulletin boards, if they have the phone numbers.
The boards allow callers to create their own logons and passwords,
opening the door for kids to get into the system. Based on their
content, the bulletin boards appear to be particularly popular among
teen-agers.
"This shows why people need to be much more aware of what kids are
doing with their computers," said Hans Von Braun, a computer security
expert who works for San Francisco-based Comsec.
One bulletin board, Burn This Flag, requires callers to fill out an
application before gaining access to an adults-only section that
contains files describing "bizarre sexual behavior." But in a written
message, Burn This Flag's system operator, known as "Zardoz,"
acknowledges there is no foolproof way to ensure all users of the
adult section are at least 18.
The Time isn't publishing the phone numbers of the rebel bulletin
boards as a children's safeguard.
The bulletin boards remain open by straddling a fine line between the
legal definitions of free speech and criminal behavior.
Under First Amendment rights guaranteeing free speech, the law allows
the bulletin boards to serve as criminal primers, as long a the advice
is limited to generic instructions. Essentially, it's legal for
individuals to discuss how to commit a crime as long as they don't
solicit or encourage the commission of a crime.
"We're aware of these types of bulletin boards," said Rick Smith, an
FBI spokesman in San Francisco. "But to shut them down, you have to
make a link between the discussion of a crime and the commission of a
crime."
Law enforcement officials and security experts said they snoop through
rogue bulletin boards to stay abreast of advice available to
prospective criminals. These periodic checks might spot possible
weaknesses in security systems and help authorities take precautions.
Pacific Bell can't refuse phone access to the underground bulletin
boards, eve though the forums often contain advice on how to commit
phone fraud. For instance, one file on the "realitycheck" board is
titled "basic telephone sabotage."
Typed by Demented Pimiento - 7/27/93---
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Sorry.. I know this is turning into a large thread but I find this interesting
Date--1993-07-28,18:13
From--JEFF HUNTER
To: ALL
Subject--Contra Costa Times
Flags:
Jeff's Letter to the Editor of the Contra Costa Times
July 28, 1993
To Whom It May Concern:
As the System Operator of & the Temple of the Screaming Electron and
the network co-ordinator for NIRVANAnet(tm) I wanted to thank your
paper for the extra publicity that Michael Liedtke's sensationalistic
article "MODEM OPERANDI: Tips On Crime Go On-line" has provided for our
BBS network.
I helped to start NIRVANAnet(tm) four years ago because I wanted to
create a computer network where ideas, any ideas, could be freely
exchanged between people. I wanted to create a network that was open,
free, and easily accessable.
When you exchange messages with people on NIRVANAnet(tm), you do not
know the age, gender, race, religious affiliation, political party,
hair length, mode of dress, or sexual orientation of the person you are
talking to. Because of this, people cannot be pigeon-holed into neat
little categories and you end up learning an amazing amount about the
thoughts, feelings, and beliefs of a much wider array of people than
you would encounter in everyday life. On our network teenagers talk to
grandparents, bikers talk with born-again Christians, and Socialists
talk to Republicans. These people would never speak to one another if
they met on the street, but because they can use computers, they freely
exchange thoughts, ideas, dreams and hopes.
Mr. Liedtke stated that we are "Using the First Amendment as a legal
shield" and that "The bulletin boards remain open by straddling a fine
line between the legal definitions of free speech and criminal
behavior."
I'm surprised that a newspaper reporter, of all people, has such a
callous disregard for the First Ammendment. There is no "fine line". We
are not engaged in criminal activities, period. We are engaged in
speech, period. Speech is protected, period. When the day comes where
people can be imprisoned merely for what they say or what they think,
it's time to move to another country. As Pacific Bell spokesman Craig
Watts stated in the article "You can't prosecute someone for bad
thoughts."
The information in the "criminal" text files that Mr. Liedtke refers to
can be found in any well-stocked library, or ordered from any number of
book publishers in this country. Many of our files were found on the
Internet, a worldwide government/university/industry network funded in
part by the National Science Foundation.
The article also stated that "The Times isn't publishing the phone
numbers of the rebel bulletin boards as a children's safeguard."
Another reason might be that people would actually call the systems in
question and find out that Mr. Liedtke did not tell the whole story,
and as everyone knows, the most effective way to lie is to only tell
part of the truth.
Sincerely,
Jeff Hunter
Sysop, & the Temple of the Screaming Electron
--- GEcho 1.00
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Here is the source
http://www.textfiles.com/magazines/CUD/cud0559.txt
In 2002, an Ontario, Canada teenager was charged with possession and manufacture of an explosive material after following a recipe claiming to be for C-4 found on the website. Due to the increased security levels after the 9/11 attacks, the teen was also charged with domestic terrorism and in turn was placed on Canada's most wanted list. After a 2 year trial against the teen, the case was eventually dismissed by the Crown Prosecutor due to lack of supporting evidence and lack of obvious malicious intent.
Wow.. I see Jeff Hunter is doing really well. He lived in Walnut Creek California with his former Wife, Alice Hunter.. Right? No this is not a fictional name. He had a PO Box in Walnut Creek
Lot's of tech things were happening over at Wallnut Creek in the 90s
There were conspiracy theories that Jeff was in kahootz with the feds, and totse was a honey pot, not specifically for it's members but the ip's who were viewing certain texts. Then again! it was also common knowledge (at the time) that a senior staff member of the cia was associated with a key company that financially backed the facebook venture.
I remember searching something totse relate years back and came across some sand nigga site that had totse in it's list. After a little bit more research I soon discovered totse was reasonably renown in certain parts of the middle east. Go figure?