Infractions, lets discuss them.
Dfg
Admin
FIY Retard Syndrome was banned an hour or so ago for flooding Totse. The ban will last for 24 hours and he will be back. Totse isn't a place to flood and I don't think anyone wants that. I am sure he will come to his senses after a while but I did warn him via pm.
Anyway, I made a thread in Mod section regarding infractions and we came up with few decent and usable infractions. But they're incomplete because like always the community has to approve or update them.
we should have simple yet clear infractions. We don't want infractions that will harm Totse in anyway. Also, the infraction must be black or white. No grey areas.
I should point out at this point, we DON'T need to use infractions on any user. We're all Totse members. So we're pretty much immune to them. These infractions are for future users, who don't understand the Totse legacy and try to shit in different sections. We need to limit those users, not our beloved Totse contributors.
A)Page Stretching.
B)Flooding.
C)Hacking the forum [exploits]
D)Spam Bots.
E)Posting harmful links.
F)Posting child porn.
G)Posting Personal Information [Full/Minor]
H)Posting Drug Sources
The above is a start but you're free to add or remove any infraction. Also, suggest points.
10 points = Ban.
A)Page Stretching.:
User intentional stretches the page using images or text to make it harder for other users to view the content.
Flooding.
User bumps threads in one section or different section with same content or user makes threads one after another with the same content.
C)Hacking the forum [exploits]
User tries to hack the forum by DDoS or using any exploit.
D)Spam Bots.
Bot accounts used for posting Adverts and Software promotions.
E)Posting harmful links.
Links to sites which can cause problems for users. Trojan or phishing links are included.
F)Posting child porn.
Posting underage pictures or content in any section.
G)Posting Personal Information [Full/Minor]
Full: Address, Social Security, CC information.
Minor: Name, picture, website link, social networking sites.
H)Posting Drug Sources
Links to drug websites.
Okay as a rule of thumb. Mods are required to warn the user first and do whatever it takes to avoid infracting them. Infracting anyone should be the last thing on your mind.
This is draft people.
inb4hate
Anyway, I made a thread in Mod section regarding infractions and we came up with few decent and usable infractions. But they're incomplete because like always the community has to approve or update them.
we should have simple yet clear infractions. We don't want infractions that will harm Totse in anyway. Also, the infraction must be black or white. No grey areas.
I should point out at this point, we DON'T need to use infractions on any user. We're all Totse members. So we're pretty much immune to them. These infractions are for future users, who don't understand the Totse legacy and try to shit in different sections. We need to limit those users, not our beloved Totse contributors.
A)Page Stretching.
B)Flooding.
C)Hacking the forum [exploits]
D)Spam Bots.
E)Posting harmful links.
F)Posting child porn.
G)Posting Personal Information [Full/Minor]
H)Posting Drug Sources
The above is a start but you're free to add or remove any infraction. Also, suggest points.
10 points = Ban.
A)Page Stretching.:
User intentional stretches the page using images or text to make it harder for other users to view the content.
Flooding.User bumps threads in one section or different section with same content or user makes threads one after another with the same content.
C)Hacking the forum [exploits]
User tries to hack the forum by DDoS or using any exploit.
D)Spam Bots.
Bot accounts used for posting Adverts and Software promotions.
E)Posting harmful links.
Links to sites which can cause problems for users. Trojan or phishing links are included.
F)Posting child porn.
Posting underage pictures or content in any section.
G)Posting Personal Information [Full/Minor]
Full: Address, Social Security, CC information.
Minor: Name, picture, website link, social networking sites.
H)Posting Drug Sources
Links to drug websites.
Okay as a rule of thumb. Mods are required to warn the user first and do whatever it takes to avoid infracting them. Infracting anyone should be the last thing on your mind.
This is draft people.
inb4hate
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So did I lol, but shes she isn't really a member (well its registered to a troll) that doesn't count
What about pre-teen modesl?
Didn't she post those pics herself on the old Totse anyway? If so it doesn't even matter, she posted them, we can repost.
That was my theory as well, but unfortunately Staff agreed and yet disagreed by sending me to the time out corner for 10 days
All those points seem perfectly fine though; I do hope no one goes on a retard rampage.
HB is chill zone and these infractions are meant for future users in general and in worst case scenarios. If someone is fucking up, I think we will be able to take care of him without using force. Think Totse rape
As long as we don't start trying to censor people's content just because it's offensive or taboo. Personally I don't even see the point in infractions... not when you can give a verbal warning via PM and then a short ban if necessary. Anybody who's willing to break those rules repeatedly is going to laugh when you infract them, so why even bother. I believe most people are reasonable, so if you nicely ask them to stop AND encourage them to play nice, then usually they'll get the hint. Whatever the case as long as we stick to only enforcing those rules you provided, and nobody tries to bend them to further their agenda, then I think we'll be fine.
Otherwise I think its okay.
Preteen models count as CP. I've moderated other boards in the past (Not TOTSE) and we've always banned PT models the same as child porn.
Stupid shit like brandon trolling is just lame and should be banned asap.
Agreed.
Definitely. That shit always pissed me off. :mad:
QFT.
If I remember right, the first forum I ever joined (lol @ being 7 and on internet) had this policy.
Avoiding censorship is the first thing on my mind. I had to zip my tongue on Zoklet like the time. There were things I could't express without getting looked down upon by the Administration.
We're not going to have pity point infractions. All these infractions will come with a time out period if required. I am hoping to enforce a ban system. If you fuck up your get a warning and the mod tries to reason with you. If you don't stop you get a ban. The infraction is basically a justificaton of ban.
The ban will last from 1 -7 days if required and in some extreme cases it could be extended. But again, I am trying to find neutral ground where the mod can't abuse the system even if he wanted too.
Again, these rules are for future kidiots we will receieve, not the current userbase. We might revise them and fix them but we have to start at one point.
Yeah, I had a problem with those one as well. I will write a guide for Totse and if users read that simple guide they won't have to worry about harmful links and personal information.
If they get pwned, we did warn them and it's their fault for not reading the FAQ.
Linking torrent is fine. As long as Totse doesn't get in trouble copyright material shouldn't bother us. If you're going to post such things just reference it to the original source.
^This.
Unless the user floods Totse or tries to damage it in anyway [like RS did /facepalm] we shouldn't ban them.
Anyway, we need a point system
I am thinking of setting each infraction as a ban. If you get infracted is basically means your banned. We need to set a duration. It can't be longer than 7 days. Only in cases such as Hacking it can be extended.
The Spam Bot is perma ban.
Again, if you don't like it. Feel free to change or adjust it in anyway you like.
This is a flawless plan that has no chance of failiure.
I need more information to work on it
I was kidding. I fully believe we need set rules/standards for this place. Thank you for considering my idea though.
I've considered you're idea in the past for an IB.
With the only moderating that would exist would be to ban CP, all spam wouldn't be banned and would just be moved to a spam board.
:cool: I want to make it eventually.
No problem. After all you're the guys running this place.
I will update the list with set of points and then we can run a test to see if it works or not. Don't worry only CP/Flooding/Spam infractions will be active until we get some new members. I don't want anyone to have a reason to infract someone just because they can.
It could work with the old &T community, but not without LOTS of trial and error. That system would only work with the right people, with the right questions.
I think if it went into a shitstorm that'd It'd make the community twice as fun. :cool:
cause an admin that has any knowledge whatsoever in php/html/etc can EASILY fix it
people shouldn't be infracted for the laziness of an admin that cant fix his own software.
This is true. But I imagine it is just for the time being since vb tends to be a pain at first.
Anyone who does this should just be banned, it'll be fairly obvious if they are only trying to fuck shit up.
Please use the suggestion thread in Help section. If this is possible I would prefer to have it that way rather than an infraction.
Yes, they're
*palms face*
Actually they're bans, once I get a feel to it I will add some points to see which works the best. At this point I am just taking input and seeing what users want.
I'm not sure if it was a joke but I read somewhere that HTS infraction some guy like 12 times for insulting mods. As long as your not flooding, going off topic or hijacking a thread, I think users should be able to say what they want IMO.
Just to clear things up...
I gave:
8 infractions to pacino when he was using multiple accounts. Not just multiple accounts, but the multiple was Habanero (who is a member and wanted his account name). We don't have a real infraction list, so I had 4 possible infractions to give (like "inappropriate language"). And every infraction is worth one point. I was basically just testing out the infraction system on someone who deserved it.
1 infraction to MashleHash when pacino gave him Habanero's account he started doing the multiple thing. After that we had a brief little chat, and I decided not to continue with infractions since they're pretty much worthless anyway.
12 infractions to $SEVEN$, who was spamming the same link across multiple boards. Probably a bot. Pretty sure the account has been deleted now. This was also just more testing, but I went over 10 infractions to see if it would ban him.
I haven't given an infraction in days, and don't plan to give any any time soon.
Well its not like you banned anyone. I don't see anything totally wrong with that. Glad you cleared that up. People made it sound like you where being Rambo of the banhammer and we just started our community :cool:
I liked that title. No one has been infracted yet [nor they will be] because we're still working on the infractions.
I think these infractions should be a ban but each one carries a different time out period. It will be much simpler. Flooding 2 Days and Add 2 more days if he keeps it up and then ban him for a month if he doesn't comply.
But still, we need to find a perfect balance.
Nope, if he does that I am sure we will take care of it. But no preemptive banning. Just keep a lookout. I think everyone knows about his habits already.
But yeah hopefully we'll keep him on check.
One thing that I feel is important is that we stop the Zoklet comparisons. Many of us are here for reasons that have to do with the way Zoklet has been and is being run. While a great many of us understand that I fell it is a disservice to this community if we continue to compare what is being attempted here with Zoklet. Think of it like this, if you had dated a woman for years and then left her for someone who knew her would you keep mentioning how things were in your last relationship and how you are going to do things differently with her than you did with the chick she knew? No, of course not, and for several reasons.
I think this may be a bad approach as it sets a double standard which will most likely create a divisive environment where some users see themselves as above other users. All rules and restrictions should apply equally to all members or they should not exist.[/QUOTE]
No hate at all and I think it is damn fine draft. The one thing that is missing IMO is something that deals with a person who deliberately derails a thread or is just an asshole for the sake of being an asshole without adding anything useful to the conversation.
Just my two cents.....
I don't think he meant they're not going to be enforced on totse users, rather that totseans know better or something to that effect.
OK then that is different. Damn DFG you stikin' PAKI why didn't you just say so. LOL
Of course it's understood that 'or text' means quoting useless shit from the last post.
I don't understand the problem with H though, this site as far as I know is off-shore, is there really an issue with discussing/linking off shore pharmacy's?
By the absolute will of Zeus, may Apollo shine great light upon all of your actions.
I edited out Zoklet if that makes you happy. These rules apply to future new users not the Totsean current userbase. This is one of the main reason why I am not worried adding this quickly to the current infraction list.
:cool: