Merging Totse Sections [Must Read]

DfgDfg Admin
edited July 2010 in Help and Suggestions
We have tons of sections and little content but that doesn't really affect us. The problem is most of the sections were added back in 2006 and onwards. They weren't that successful and I don't think they used prefixes on Totse.

But we can use sub-forums and prefixes easily.

So, I prefer the 2005 and back look. Things were grouped into smaller but active sections. Right now, I had hard time compiling the sections in the mod list thread. We have some useless sections that don't fare well when it comes to traffic and they were part of another larger section in the old days.

Since we're going back to roots, I thought it would be best to merge the sections now and assign two mods per section. Use prefixes and sub-forms if required.

Later on we can add more sections if required, but we need to modernize Totse a bit and aim at newer users.

So, can anyone post 2005 forum screenshots for reference.

And everyone, please concentrate and think before posting. You have the power. You decide.

Follow this simple format:

Forum Name:

Opinion

Pros:

Cons:

Should be merged with:

Should be moved in this section:

Example:

Forum Name: It came from Redmond

Opinion Was originally with T&T. It's fairly restricted nowadays and doesn't get much traffic.

Pros:
Is Windows only.

Cons:
Is Windows only.


Should be merged with: Technophiliacs & Technophiles

^Just an example.

Comments

  • LSA KingLSA King Regular
    edited July 2010
    I'll keep it short since I chose "No". I did so because this is the familiar format and I think it's too early to start stripping the fat, so to speak. As far as Moderators/threads/posts are concerned, I don't think we need to worry about that as a major factor to discredit a forums future potential. As the content picks up I think leaders will obviously stand out and until content and traffic picks up we don't need moderators at the moment given all is smooth.

    If a forum has no moderator and someone starts being a troll knowing there is nobody to stop them I'd just do the old Totse method and PM a staff member that is currently on and have them look into it and take care of it. That's why the communication chain exsits and worked on the Old Totse.
  • DfgDfg Admin
    edited July 2010
    LSA King wrote: »
    I'll keep it short since I chose "No". I did so because this is the familiar format and I think it's too early to start stripping the fat, so to speak. As far as Moderators/threads/posts are concerned, I don't think we need to worry about that as a major factor to discredit a forums future potential. As the content picks up I think leaders will obviously stand out and until content and traffic picks up we don't need moderators at the moment given all is smooth.

    If a forum has no moderator and someone starts being a troll knowing there is nobody to stop them I'd just do the old Totse method and PM a staff member that is currently on and have them look into it and take care of it. That's why the communication chain exsits and worked on the Old Totse.

    I like the forum layout and No is a wise choice. I wanted to check what the majority thinks before working on things. It would be foolish to assign mods and then wait for them to contribute like hell only to have their sections merged in the end.

    Ofcourse I know the community wont let it happen but you have to check before doing things.

    Also, we do need to move Trading Pit up and add a dedicated Porn Section. I will make a seperate thread after we see what happens here.

    Like always I am the neutral party here.
  • muffinsmuffins Regular
    edited July 2010
    I voted no also for similar reasons as LSA king stated. On the terms of moderation I dont think certain forums need mods yet but it would be nice if the largest contributor of that section was given the ability to sticky threads and or merge similiar threads after asking regulars if it was cool with them. Things are going smooth.
  • DfgDfg Admin
    edited July 2010
    muffins wrote: »
    I voted no also for similar reasons as LSA king stated. On the terms of moderation I dont think certain forums need mods yet but it would be nice if the largest contributor of that section was given the ability to sticky threads and or merge similiar threads after asking regulars if it was cool with them. Things are going smooth.

    Thankfully they're. But it wont be for long when we get traffic and beleive me. We will get traffic. But I like the feedback. Keep it coming people.
  • DfgDfg Admin
    edited July 2010
    trx100 wrote: »
    Shit. When I voted for yes, I actually meant no. Don't count my vote.

    Don't worry about it :).
  • BaconPieBaconPie Regular
    edited July 2010
    Mac, Linux and Windows seperate forums need to be merged with T&T. There simply isn't enough traffic in the three tailored ones and any traffic that they do have, is less traffic for T&T.

    That's a whole lotta low traffic.

    Also, dedicated porn thread not it's own board. Unless its like 300+ pages. That was the spirit of totse, someone started a porn thread and it grew. Don't force a section if no one is making threads about it. I think this runs for everything.

    It's like butter, if you spread it out so thin then you can't even taste it. But when you make the bread smaller, the tasty butter is more tasty. Unless of course you have a shit load of butter, but we scraping the box here...

    Edit: Also, why the hell is my user name underlined?
  • abusernameabusername Regular
    edited July 2010
    No thanks!

    If we did that I would bitch like a little girl at you Dfg. Then leave. Then come back and bitch again!
  • wasjoshwasjosh Regular
    edited July 2010
    BaconPie wrote: »
    Edit: Also, why the hell is my user name underlined?


    lol, it's crazy, mine is too!


    Die in ditch, turn left now.
  • DirtySanchezDirtySanchez Regular
    edited July 2010
    Id say leave carnality untouched. Id say in Technology merge all the ones that have to do with computers I think it'll create more traffic there and can easily sustain itself with one computer forum. I think anime should be merged with moving pictures since overall they both deal with well moving pictures.

    Im not sure what you think of this but what about merging headshrinkers and reinvent yourself since they both pertain to improving yourself and issues with mind and body could easily be contained in one forum.

    Other than those sections i say leave it the same.
  • KundaLiniKundaLini Regular
    edited July 2010
    Only if you remember to separate them again if there is enough traffic for expansion of INFORMATION!
  • wasjoshwasjosh Regular
    edited July 2010
    Overall, it's a bit much for me to handle.

    I can't read that much, even if I spend 19 hours a day on this lame site. :x


    Well maybe I can, but I don't want to.
  • 1357913579 Death Cog Machine
    edited July 2010
    I voted Yes. I much preferred the 2005-look of totse, and although many might be used to the current look, I feel we don't have enough traffic at the moment to justify the amount of boards we have.

    I also get the feeling most users are voting 'No', because they don't know what would be changed.

    From what I can remember:
    • There was no Help & Suggestions forum-
    • I'm fairly sure a few of the forums under 'Art' were merged-
    • I don't recall Green Planet or Clean Tech, didn't we have only one nature forum?
    • Don't remember Science of the Damned existing-
    • I'm fairly sure Old School, New School, Fool School and Together We Serve weren't around at that time-
    • There were also no separate windows/linux/mac forums-

    Just to get an idea. I think some of the new forums are actually pretty useful and will get traffic, so if it were personally up to me, I'd merge:
    • The Windows/Linux/Mac forums into T&T-
    • Clean Tech & Green Planet into an "Environmental Issues" type forum-
    • *Perhaps some of the Art forums
    • *Possibly Anime into Moving Pictures, as a sub-forum-

    Reasons being:
    • The Windows/Linux/Mac forums can easily go into T&T to create a high-traffic forum-
    • Clean Tech & Green Planet are extremely close to the same thing, could easily be merged into an "Environmental Issues" type forum-
    BaconPie wrote: »
    Mac, Linux and Windows seperate forums need to be merged with T&T. There simply isn't enough traffic in the three tailored ones and any traffic that they do have, is less traffic for T&T.

    Also, dedicated porn thread not it's own board. Unless its like 300+ pages. That was the spirit of totse, someone started a porn thread and it grew. Don't force a section if no one is making threads about it. I think this runs for everything.

    Completely agree with this. We had epic porn threads :cool:

    EDIT: Remember, if we get more traffic we can always remake the forums we merge.
  • Brock SamsonBrock Samson Regular
    edited July 2010
    No, the forum will flesh out over time.
  • GreenbullGreenbull Regular
    edited July 2010
    Merge tech forums, clean tech with Green Planet, set the style with RY.

    Move ego up to the top under about.
  • HTS-NoobHTS-Noob Regular
    edited July 2010
    I say we merge them. For now at least. We don't have enough members to justify niche subsections like Linux/Mac/Windows when all of those could be included in T&T without things getting messy.

    On totse we used to have a shitload of members. When they made those forums they were 'low traffic' and still had as much traffic as like... SG does now. From where I'm sitting it looks smart to merge them for now and see how things stand in a year or two. :)

    EDIT: >my face when people already said all this pretty much word for word
  • DfgDfg Admin
    edited July 2010
    Thanks for the feedback. Don't worry I am just looking to merge T&T with Tech forums or making them their sub-forums. And adding Envrionmental Issues and mergering them with two sections.

    Everything is reversible.
  • MantikoreMantikore Regular
    edited July 2010
    Keep everything as totse as possible for now. dont touch anything!
  • Big baby jesusBig baby jesus Regular
    edited July 2010
    I say, don't do it man!
  • da teachada teacha Regular
    edited July 2010
    Pre 2006 layout ftw.

    It's just stupid having half dead forums laying around.

    - It increases time to scroll down the page
    - Takes traffic away from what could be successful forums
    - Takes too long to check too many forums
    - Increases mod:user ratio
    - Less people check small forums = less replies to threads = less content
    - Dead forums gives impression of dead site
    - Less stuff to talk about in SG

    Set the style: merge into Reinvent Yourself/Art & Design
    Money money money: merge into Reinvent Yourself/Bad Ideas
    Headshrinkers: merge into SG/S&A/Reinvent Yourself/Humanities
    Anime: merge into Moving Pictures
    All nature forums: merge into Green Planet (categorise under Science)
    Science of the Damned: merge into Mad Scientists, or vice versa
    Cunning Linguists: merge into Humanities/SG/Trav Travails
    NOTY: merge into SG/IFIOTW
    OSNWFS: merge into SG/Reinvent Yourself
    I am the law: merge into SG/S&A/Humanities
    Together we serve: merge into W&C
    Nix/Mac/MS: merge into T&T
  • Darth BeaverDarth Beaver Meine Ehre heißt Treue
    edited July 2010
    da teacha wrote: »
    Pre 2006 layout ftw.

    It's just stupid having half dead forums laying around.

    - It increases time to scroll down the page
    - Takes traffic away from what could be successful forums
    - Takes too long to check too many forums
    - Increases mod:user ratio
    - Less people check small forums = less replies to threads = less content
    - Dead forums gives impression of dead site
    - Less stuff to talk about in SG

    Set the style: merge into Reinvent Yourself/Art & Design
    Money money money: merge into Reinvent Yourself/Bad Ideas
    Headshrinkers: merge into SG/S&A/Reinvent Yourself/Humanities
    Anime: merge into Moving Pictures
    All nature forums: merge into Green Planet (categorise under Science)
    Science of the Damned: merge into Mad Scientists, or vice versa
    Cunning Linguists: merge into Humanities/SG/Trav Travails
    NOTY: merge into SG/IFIOTW
    OSNWFS: merge into SG/Reinvent Yourself
    I am the law: merge into SG/S&A/Humanities
    Together we serve: merge into W&C
    Nix/Mac/MS: merge into T&T


    All good points I say merge for now.
  • 1357913579 Death Cog Machine
    edited July 2010
    da teacha wrote: »
    Pre 2006 layout ftw.

    It's just stupid having half dead forums laying around.

    - It increases time to scroll down the page
    - Takes traffic away from what could be successful forums
    - Takes too long to check too many forums
    - Increases mod:user ratio
    - Less people check small forums = less replies to threads = less content
    - Dead forums gives impression of dead site
    - Less stuff to talk about in SG

    Set the style: merge into Reinvent Yourself/Art & Design
    Money money money: merge into Reinvent Yourself/Bad Ideas
    Headshrinkers: merge into SG/S&A/Reinvent Yourself/Humanities
    Anime: merge into Moving Pictures
    All nature forums: merge into Green Planet (categorise under Science)
    Science of the Damned: merge into Mad Scientists, or vice versa
    Cunning Linguists: merge into Humanities/SG/Trav Travails
    NOTY: merge into SG/IFIOTW
    OSNWFS: merge into SG/Reinvent Yourself
    I am the law: merge into SG/S&A/Humanities
    Together we serve: merge into W&C
    Nix/Mac/MS: merge into T&T

    All of this. New users won't stay if they think the forum is dead.
  • Fuck the FBIFuck the FBI Regular
    edited July 2010
    I support this thread.

    But Putting things into SG aka a general forum is bad. I Am the Law and together we serve should be one subforum of W&C

    basically merge all of the nature related forums
    merge all of the tech forums

    other than that, yeah
  • da teachada teacha Regular
    edited July 2010
    Erorr wrote: »
    That would increase traffic but moving everything into one pile is a horrible idea. SG is good to read and have fun with but having everything condensed into one area is a bad idea when it comes to most topics outside of lulz and hatred. The posters are usually mindless and go through the motions for humor and when you go to post a thread say about economics or a heartfelt opinion in SG your going to get nothing but LOL DAT FUNNY BRAH.

    You say all these forums are dead as fuck right? Then liven them up with posts. If you have concern for them and want them to be moved and improved in these ways then why arent you in those sections to begin with posting?

    (generality not speaking to you specifically)

    Totse back in the day had a fraction of the forums we currently have; it worked perfectly fine.

    There is a huge amount of bloat at the moment, which isn't sustainable for a community our size.

    It isn't exactly 'one huge pile', the forum mergers I suggested all result in forums with direction and a general topic.

    And it's forced and stupid to just mention 'contribute!!!'. With the size of our community, well end up with a bunch of people making bullshit 'what is your favourite X' threads in an attempt to boost the amount of threads. The answers will be posters going through the notions, and no real content will be generated which we haven't seen before.

    Rome wasn't built in a day, and it's absolutely stupid to think we can instantly become Totse and support the same number of forums in an instant. We need to return to a sustainable level and build from there.
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