Immigrants are Threat to standard of living in Western Nations

AndersHovelandAndersHoveland Acolyte
edited June 2011 in Spurious Generalities
In my humble opinion, the large influx of immigrants from poorer countries displacing white people from jobs and housing, and leading to a decline in living standards, as well as unemployment.

Hispanics immigrating to America:

See this site:
https://sites.google.com/site/displacedbyimmigrants/

While I believe most other races are measurably inferior to white people (perhaps with the exception of the Japanese), I nevertheless believe that all people deserve to life, and should be generally treated equally.

However, I strongly believe that the different races should live separately.
When different races live in the same area it will create severe long term problems that are extremely difficult to undo, and it will inevitably result in interbreeding between different races.

In the case of the USA, if immigrants from Mexico are allowed to continue to come into the country, the USA will become more and more like Mexico, with all the poverty, unemployment, crime, and dishonesty that is ever present in Mexico. Mexico is a horrible place to live for most of the people living there.

If the developed countries allow in too many people, extreme competition for jobs will drive down wages, concentrating more wealth to a small segment of society. Since most of the wealth will be in the hands of a very small number of people, that means fewer people will have much money, and less money will be spent, meaning even fewer jobs, and continuing the cycle which quickly spiral downwards into widespread poverty.

No one would allow large numbers of immigrants into their country if they all lived on welfare, yet giving unemployed immigrants welfare would be far cheaper than the cost of their crime to society, and the additional burden they place on educational institutions, emergency departments, and social services. There is another phenomena in the USA: hispanic immigrants take jobs away from black people. So each additional immigrant means some other black person on welfare (or in prison, as 1 out of 7 young adult black males are in prison on any given day, which likely would be lower if it was not so difficult for them to find employment).


Muslims in Western Europe:
There have been violent muslim protests in virtually all the Western European countries.
Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, France, Spain, and Italy

Muslims have already rioted in France and Sweden, two countries which have large immigrant muslim populations. It is not unlikely that they will do the same in North America once their numbers have increased there. The rioting in Sweden has been particularly vicious. They have overturned cars and set them on fire. They have thrown Molotov cocktails at police. Ethnic swedes have fled a whole section of Malmö after riots around Rosengård.

the rioters set fire to cars, houses, and stores:
http://barenakedislam.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/malmo_muslim.jpg?w=460&h=195
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7rfiyAZWhAU/SUmfYx6-_tI/AAAAAAAACvQ/FdIBqw_ie1w/s400/malm%C3%B6_brand03.jpg
http://sheikyermami.com/wp-content/uploads/franceriot_pic.jpeg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uOrrNDoZb6M/S_1DP2B29XI/AAAAAAAAAMU/tDiQqQM1Ry0/s1600/Pales.jpg
http://tundratabloids.com/2009/01/sweden-rosengard-growing-more-radical.html

They have also rioted in Oslo.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/10/article-1111203-03023847000005DC-853_468x310.jpg
http://gfx.dagbladet.no/video/splash/ani_33750_1.jpg
http://sixmeatbuffet.com/images/carburn1.jpg
http://barenakedislam.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/56702358.jpg?w=460&h=305
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_U54NM9QE5VY/SWcEcBjhxwI/AAAAAAAAFa4/95n7JNtCG_E/s1600/oslo5.jpg

Realize that Norway and Sweden are the most racially tolerant countries in the world. The governments make every effort to accomodate and integrate all immigrants, especially muslims. The financial assistance that the muslims get in these countries would be unbelievable to most americans. Essentially a free apartment, free healthcare, free bus transportation, free university. If this is how muslims repay the generosity and kindness shown to them by Sweden and Norway, imagine what the muslims will do in the USA once they have taken over part of a city.

Let us compare the difference in the crime rate in Sweden between fifty years ago (before all the muslim immigration) and now. In 1950, there were 2,785 crimes committed per 100,000 people. As of 2007, the rate increased to 14,333. In Sweden, rape victims are often mutilated after the rape (estimated that as many as 1 out of 8 women who have been raped). This is a common practice in Islamic African cultures, a cruel signature to mar the victim for life. A very small, but still very disturbing, number of swedish female rape victims have been genitally mutilated, typically before the intercourse. 467 rapes against children under the age of 15 were reported in 2004, which is double what it was a decade ago (258 rapes in 1995). http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?I...date=20050125#
Only three decades ago Sweden was one of the safest countires in Europe. It now tops the list as the European country with the most rapes per capita — 46 incidents per 100,000 residents.(study financed by EU). In July 2005, a study from the Swedish Crime Prevention Council, Brå, revealed that rapists in the country were four times more likely to be foreign born. The report also revealed that “resident aliens” from Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia compose the largest number of rapists. The number of rape charges in Sweden has quadrupled in just above 20 years. Rape cases involving children under the age of 15 are six times as common today as they were a generation ago. In 2005, Swedish lawyer Ann Christine Hjelm found that 85 percent of the convicted rapists were “born on foreign soil or from foreign parents.” Sweden has a larger immigrant population than any other country in northern Europe.

Malmö, set to become the first Scandinavian city with a muslim majority within a decade or two, has nine times as many reported robberies per capita as Copenhagen, Denmark. Unemployment rates in the city are over 50 percent and in 2005, police figures recorded that 68 percent of all rapes that year were committed by immigrants, mainly second and third generation immigrants from muslim countries.

In 2006, immigration accounted for more than half of Norway’s population growth. In that year, official statistics from Statistics Norway Bureau (SSB) showed a record 45,800 immigrants arriving in Norway — 30 percent higher than 2005. By some estimates, norwegians will be a minority in their capital city, Oslo, within only 25 years. Norway's main newspaper, Aftenposten, recently ran a story saying that 65% of the rape crimes in Oslo were committed by foreigners, even though they only represent a mere 23% of the population in the Norwegian capital. Foreigners are six times more likely to commit rape than native norwegians in Oslo.

[ame=" - Oslo: ALL Sexual Assaults ending in Rape commited by Non-Westerners[/ame]
If this video will not make you admit that there might at least be a possibility that muslim immigration into your country could cause serious problems, then there is nothing else left for me to post that will convince you.

There have been many disorderly protests in Britain, but so far none of them have resulted in any serious vandalism or assault.
http://www.frugal-cafe.com/public_html/frugal-blog/frugal-cafe-blogzone/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/muslim-riot-london-may-2011.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/05/06/article-0-0BEFE09B00000578-588_634x411.jpg
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/images/2009/01/10/londongaza.jpg

a third of muslim immigrants to europe are anti-semetic:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hntojuBOgo0/SLrPXR9EfMI/AAAAAAAADVU/9k72sxEFSSg/s400/MuslimMenace.jpg

one of them stole the cap of a police officers had and set it aflame:
http://sheikyermami.com/wp-content/uploads/muslims_copcap1.jpg

Even Greece has had muslim violence:
http://undhimmi.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/athens_muslim_riots.jpg

Here is a map showing all of the violent muslim riots that have taken place in France in the last decade:
http://www.hyscience.com/archives/France%20burning.gif

Although the USA has a large number of muslims, it is also a very big country with many other people. The muslims are spread thin, so fortunately there does not really exist a big enough muslim community anywhere to support a riot.

Muslim prisoners in Britain have doubled in the last decade to reach a total of between 4000-4500—amounting to 9% of the total prison population—which is triple their proportion of the total population. One out of eleven prisoners is Muslim. Over 65% of these prisoners are young men between the ages of eighteen and thirty. Not all offenders are men; 10% are women. These statistics actually come from a muslim-run site: http://www.islamfortoday.com/birt01.htm

Closing Thoughts:
Just remember that more poor minorities in your country will mean higher taxes and lower quality government services available to your children (health, education, legal, law enforcement). Lines will be longer, roads will have more traffic, and everything will be more crowded. It will also mean that the people your children go to school with and work with will be almost entirely from a different race. The chance of your female descendants being raped will be several times higher than it would otherwise have been.
Do you really think there will be enough decent paying jobs to go around with all those additional people? Your children will also be competing with more people for a place to live. Houses in many areas have become increasingly unaffordable.

As jobs pay less and things become more unaffordable, white people will have fewer children. Meanwhile, the poor immigrants who live in poverty will not hesitate to keep churning out more babies, even though they cannot even really afford to live on their own.

Comments

  • RemadERemadE Global Moderator
    edited June 2011
    More immigrants = more needs = more jobs.

    I know there is a saturation point, but generally accepted concensus within my circles says that.
  • AndersHovelandAndersHoveland Acolyte
    edited June 2011
    RemadE wrote: »
    More immigrants = more needs = more jobs.

    Except immigrants do not have money. In these times of high unemployment, any money they do get will be money that another native worker will not get. Because most immigrants have very low incomes, the types of jobs created by their disposible incomes will be low-paying jobs.
    We can see this in the health services. Our western countries need skilled medical professionals to take care of all those second-generation immigrants who have grown older- but the older minorities struggle to get by in retirement, they certainly do not have any money for medical expenses, and the government certainly does not have the money to spend- so we are looking for skilled medical professionals willing to work for very low pay. Where do we find these people willing to undergo intense training to work for peanuts? the Philippines (if you are in the USA) or India (if you are in the UK).

    Yeah, immigrants certainly bring more jobs. :facepalm: [sarcasm]
  • DaktologistDaktologist Global Moderator
    edited June 2011
    So i guess you also have a problem with wealthy western immigrants who start businesses and create jobs for local workers
  • theGeneraltheGeneral Regular
    edited June 2011
    This has been said for so long, and yet for so long we have benefited tremendously from immigration.

    Just imagine, for example, if Germans were never allowed to immigrate to America.

    Do you really think we would be where we are today? I think the standard of living would be significantly different, for the worse.

    Immigration is fine, just don't allow in criminals or leeches. Make sure they have jobs and can support themselves.

    No problem.
  • Rumple ForeskinRumple Foreskin Regular
    edited June 2011
    I dont have a gripe with immigrants at all. In fact anyone can come over to the good old US of A as long as they follow the legal procedure to do so. I just have a problem with illegals using public services which they dont pay into.
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