Selling your kidney? — Totseans

Selling your kidney?

majeurevismajeurevis Acolyte
edited November 2011 in Man Cave
I've been looking all night about where to go to sell a kidney. So far, I've found that it's legal in Iran and supposedly in Singapore. However, Iran only pays a few grand, where in Singapore, you can get over $20,000 if you play your cards right.

Does anyone have any information about selling your organs?

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  • DfgDfg Admin
    edited May 2011
    It's quite common in Pakistan and India however it's not that legal and you could say it's a grey area. Consult your local hospital regarding this. Ask them you're doing an article on selling organs etc. and it would be great if you can get some information regarding it.
  • majeurevismajeurevis Acolyte
    edited May 2011
    Thanks for the advice, but I highly doubt speaking to a local hospital about selling a kidney is a good idea. First of all, I doubt they would have any information. If they did, it would be just as easy for me to learn about it online.

    Secondly, involvement from authorities, or at least being put on a watch list, would most likely occur.

    I am not talking about the illegal side of it, even though this is in bad ideas. Regardless of the legality of it, selling an organ is probably considered a bad idea. However, it IS legal in Iran and I believe Singapore.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/028497_organ_transplants_kidneys.html

    This site is stating that U.S. organ brokers are making over $150,000 PER KIDNEY. They are paying the donors a little over $1,000. That's really fucked up, but that's not the point. I am hoping to find a way to make at least $50k off of mine.

    I've found donor websites and medical tourism sites, but none of them have any information about linking donors to patients who will pay.
  • majeurevismajeurevis Acolyte
    edited May 2011
    http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/sell-your-kidney-for-50000-says-specialist/2008/05/04/1209839456231.html

    "Having someone on dialysis for seven years costs the government about $500,000, and that's conservative," he said. "If it costs about $50,000 to buy a kidney and about $15,000 a year thereafter in health care, the government is miles ahead. And it is a safer outcome for the donor and recipient. If we don't shake the oligarchy, we'll still be in this situation in 10 or 20 years - and people will have died unnecessarily."

    Sorry, too lazy to use tags right now.
  • MayberryMayberry Regular
    edited May 2011
    I read an article about selling organs on the MCAT or something, and it outlined points similar to those mentioned above. If it was legal and regulated, it might be a way for people to make some needed cash. However, because it isn't legal nor regulated in the nice places, going to some alley to get your organs harvested carries a huge risk, and if you're going to end up using the money to pay for medical bills to deal with the aftermath, then no reason to do it in the first place.
  • majeurevismajeurevis Acolyte
    edited May 2011
    Well, from what I've read, you go to actual hospitals with respectable doctors, not some dirty table in a back-alley room.

    The money you get in total is over $50,000, but they do take medical expenses out of it. I think what it came down to way $50-60k total, but the donor actually gets around $20k cash after medical and travel expenses, which is still great. You only use 60% of your kidneys anyway, and you have two, so why not save someone's life and make some change?
  • edited May 2011
    You'd have to fly somewhere and sell it.

    Honestly though, I wouldn't. If anything happens to your other kidney, you're fucked. What if someone you love (For whom you're a transplant candidate) needs a kidney? You'd feel like a dick.
  • majeurevismajeurevis Acolyte
    edited May 2011
    Well that's the thing. If you find someone who needs it, they'll typically pay for the flight, accommodations, and medical expenses on top of what they pay you.

    The whole point of this is to find out WHERE to find buyers. I've found numerous donor sites and info on which countries it's legal in, just no brokers or directories of patients needing them that would compensate.

    Edit: There's a good reason to do it now. In the future, animal kidneys, lab-grown kidneys, and artificial kidneys will be more readily available. They already have an artificial kidney awaiting human trials. Hell, even the legality of it in many countries may change, thus driving the compensation to donors down to a miniscule amount compared to today's rates. It only makes sense to do it now or as soon as possible in order to make the most profit.
  • majeurevismajeurevis Acolyte
    edited May 2011
    It is considered illegal as well as unethical to sell body organs.

    Illegal, true. However, as stated in previous posts, there are countries where it is legal. Traveling to that country and performing the surgery is perfectly fine.

    Unethical? I don't see why. We own our bodies and should be able to sell them if we want to. We can already sell blood, sperm, eggs, plasma, platelets, bone marrow, hair, etc etc. Kidney patients have a massive waiting list, with many of them dying before they ever receive one. I don't see why it's wrong for both parties to benefit from a simple business transaction. No one is as altruistic about anything, let alone organ donation, as the media and government would lead you to believe. I have a heart on my ID just so you know.

    What are your ethics based on?

    This is bad ideas, by the way.
  • LuxJigabooLuxJigaboo Regular
    edited May 2011
    Dfg wrote: »
    It's quite common in Pakistan and India however it's not that legal and you could say it's a grey area. Consult your local hospital regarding this. Ask them you're doing an article on selling organs etc. and it would be great if you can get some information regarding it.

    Have you heard of any local incidences of organ theft? Such as a man going in for some minor surgery, and the doctors taking his kidney to sell?
  • LethargicaLethargica Regular
    edited May 2011
    Not a good idea. Since it's not legal..you they can potentially just take all of your organs..if you were to be put to sleep..or painkillers and have you bound. It's been done before in europe.


    There was a korean dry cleaning..the owner says "hey..i your clothes are back here.....the customer goes in the back and the owner knocks him out, kills him and took his organs and sold them..
  • majeurevismajeurevis Acolyte
    edited May 2011
    Lethargica wrote: »
    Not a good idea. Since it's not legal..you they can potentially just take all of your organs..if you were to be put to sleep..or painkillers and have you bound. It's been done before in europe.


    There was a korean dry cleaning..the owner says "hey..i your clothes are back here.....the customer goes in the back and the owner knocks him out, kills him and took his organs and sold them..

    Yes, I understand that happens and it is something I'm trying to avoid. That is why I mentioned two countries where it is actually legal. In those countries, the trade is regulated and performed by competent surgeons and isn't shady like that.

    Having a family member or friend come along with you would be the best thing to do here, even if you are going to a country where it's legal.
  • majeurevismajeurevis Acolyte
    edited May 2011
    Regarding the unethical part, it's not nice to sell something that you own as part of your body, that's all, give it for free.

    Yet it is perfectly acceptable to be compensated for your blood, plasma, platelets, hair, and bone marrow?

    It is perfectly acceptable to sell your belongings to someone else?

    You own your organs. You should be able to do whatever you want with them.

    You wouldn't just give a stranger your car when someone else needs a car and is willing to pay $50k for it, would you?
  • GoingNowhereGoingNowhere Global Moderator
    edited May 2011
    Didn't realise you could get get much for it, but if you ever need the use of your second kidney then you're stuffed lol!! :D
  • edited May 2011
    Who the fuck managed to inject morality into this?

    Here's my test of whether shit is alright to do:

    Is anybody hurt, or worse off because I'm doing this?

    So who's hurt if I sell my kidney?
  • majeurevismajeurevis Acolyte
    edited September 2011
  • PacoPaco me administrator
    edited November 2011
    If one were to risk potential legal trouble in order to sell a kidney for some extra cash, why not go all the way and steal someone elses kidney? If you want, I can write you a guide for it.
  • Hellz-FuryHellz-Fury Regular
    edited November 2011
    Paco wrote: »
    If one were to risk potential legal trouble in order to sell a kidney for some extra cash, why not go all the way and steal someone elses kidney? If you want, I can write you a guide for it.

    If I had a buyer, I would love to read that guide. :D
  • PacoPaco me administrator
    edited November 2011
    Alright. I started writing it already, but I'm leaving for Vermont in about 30 minutes. I'll try to finish it when I get home Sunday night.
  • juggjugg Regular
    edited November 2011
    There are 8 countries that are well know for legal and illegal organ trafficking-#8 Kosovo

    #7 Mozambique

    #6 Israel / Palestine
    #5 India

    #4 Pakistan

    #3 Egypt

    #2 China

    #1 Moldova

    Hope that helps!

    Link-http://news.upickreviews.com/featured/8-countries-where-human-organs-are-harvested/





    Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_countries_can_you_sell_your_organs_in#ixzz1dXvNwqny


    I would look into israel
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