Democracy never meant freedom in my eyes. As soon as rhetoric was thrown around, especially post-9/11 it soon became apparent that freedom in the form of ordinance, surveillance and things like the TSA etc is not right, and that the constant use of that word will just teach another generation something wrong so they can also be assfucked by the Govt on a larger scale than us.
Remade, in Training Manual No. 2000-25 that was published by the then War Department, Washington, D.C., November 30, 1928, in Section II Paragraph 18 (on the topic of citizenship) it states:
special emphasis
being given to the fact that the United States is a Republic, not a
democracy
The following are other portion of that same 1928 manual;
Prepared under the direction of the Chief of Staff.
CITIZENSHIP
This manual supersedes Manual of Citizenship Training The use of the publication "The Constitution of the United States," by Harry Atwood, is by permission and courtesy of the author.
CITIZENSHIP Democracy:
A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of "direct" expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic--negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether is be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. Results in demogogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy
CITIZENSHIP Republic:
Authority is derived through the election by the people of public officials best fitted to represent them. Attitude toward law is the administration of justice in accord with fixed principles and established evidence, with a strict regard to consequences. A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be brought within its compass. Avoids the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or mobocracy. Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice, contentment, and progress. Is the "standard form" of government throughout the world. A republic is a form of government under a constitution which provides for the election of
(1) an executive and (2) a legislative body, who working together in a representative capacity, have all the power of appointment, all power of legislation, all power to raise revenue and appropriate expenditures, and are required to create (3) a judiciary to pass upon the justice and legality of their government acts and to recognize (4) certain inherent individual rights.
Take away any one or more of those four elements and you are drifting into autocracy. Add one or more to those four elements and you are drifting into democracy.
Atwood. Superior to all others.--Autocracy declares the divine right of kings; its authority can not be questioned; its powers are arbitrarily or unjustly administered. Democracy is the "direct" rule of the people and has been repeatedly tried without success. Our Constitutional fathers, familiar with the strength and weakness of both autocracy and democracy, with fixed principles definitely in mind, defined a representative republican form of government. They "made a very marked distinction between a republic and a democracy * * * and said repeatedly and emphatically that they had founded a republic."
"By order of the Secretary of War: C.P. Summerall, Major General, Chief of Staff. Official: Lutz Wahl, Major General, The Adjutant General.
The point I am trying to make is two fold. First the purposeful mislabeling of the U.S. as a Democracy rather than as the Republic it is by the media and it's masters has been taking place since 1933. Shortly after the "bank holiday" in 1933, orders from the FDR White House suddenly demanded without explanation that all copies of this book be withdrawn from the Government Printing Office and the Army posts, to be suppressed and destroyed. So began the demagogic descent of the United States and the subversion of the Constitution into Americanized National Socialism, bankruptcy and the continued state of national emergency that we have experienced as a nation for the past 8 decades.
Secondly, democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves large amounts of money out of the public treasury. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy, always to be followed by a dictatorship (written by Professor Alexander Fraser Tytler, nearly two centuries ago while our thirteen original states were still colonies of Great Britain. At the time he was writing of the decline and fall of the Athenian Republic over two thousand years before.)
I recall when you said the USA was a Republic, not a Democracy and it really hit home. Interesting read, as the troops had to shut up and agree to that paperwork. The cycle of politics ends up ugly.
Talking of which I really want to find a picture I have of the history of politics. Goddammit.
The bottom line is they redefine the meanings of words through slow careful manipulation via the media over multiple generation they change the general public;s understanding of the word. Just like with democracy. They changed our understanding of the word democracy. Then, over the last 80 years, they taught us that we are a democracy. Now that they have us convinced we are a democracy they operate as a democracy, not as our understanding of a democracy but the original meaning of the word. Not the one they taught us, but the one they have always held to be true.
Exactly what I was thinking. If we teach our kids that Democracy comes on the premise of CCTV, war and corruption them in another generations' time it will be accepted as normal.
Redefinition of words is a big part of history, and now - the future.
Reading through this conversation reminds me of something that I thought a long time ago. I believe everyone should read Edward Bernays Propaganda, it is a real eye opener as to the way public thought is manipulated and the fact that our perception of everything is guided.
Darth Beaver
Meine Ehre heißt Treue
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The following are other portion of that same 1928 manual;
The point I am trying to make is two fold. First the purposeful mislabeling of the U.S. as a Democracy rather than as the Republic it is by the media and it's masters has been taking place since 1933. Shortly after the "bank holiday" in 1933, orders from the FDR White House suddenly demanded without explanation that all copies of this book be withdrawn from the Government Printing Office and the Army posts, to be suppressed and destroyed. So began the demagogic descent of the United States and the subversion of the Constitution into Americanized National Socialism, bankruptcy and the continued state of national emergency that we have experienced as a nation for the past 8 decades.
Secondly, democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves large amounts of money out of the public treasury. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy, always to be followed by a dictatorship (written by Professor Alexander Fraser Tytler, nearly two centuries ago while our thirteen original states were still colonies of Great Britain. At the time he was writing of the decline and fall of the Athenian Republic over two thousand years before.)
Talking of which I really want to find a picture I have of the history of politics. Goddammit.
Redefinition of words is a big part of history, and now - the future.
http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/bernprop.html
Shame most people are less than that