Also, I once heard of a guy who was caught because he bought all the supplies he needed to grow marijuana at one store and the guy he bought it from got suspicious and reported it. So make sure if you do grow marijuana that you buy everything at different locations.
Oh, and many get caught by dabbling in other illegal activities such as theft etc, when growing.
Short story: When growing, be an asslicker who does nothing wrong.
I've been told that three or four HPS Security lamps from the Home Depot seem to do the trick for a closet sized setup. Maybe 20 square feet of floorspace or so.
Running your mouth is the biggest problem, but the electric bill thing is not entirely true. It would have to be a large scale operation before you'd run up a big enough bill for the electric bitches to say anything. They want you to run up a big bill.
If it bothers you though, look into growing under CFLs. They don't use as much electricity and you can grow a nice run if you do it properly. I recommend the Screen of Green method, or scrog. I'm in a hurry or I'd put up some links.
If you have say 3, it's like having an extra computer running 24/7... But if you're turnin your whole apt. into a grow op it will become a factor...
You mean how many lights? It's possible to grow 5 or so under a 600w MH or HPS. I opted for CFL back in the day though. Still, it put the leccy bill from ~£70/month to ~£110/month, not including fans etc.
Running your mouth is the biggest problem, but the electric bill thing is not entirely true. It would have to be a large scale operation before you'd run up a big enough bill for the electric bitches to say anything. They want you to run up a big bill.
If it bothers you though, look into growing under CFLs. They don't use as much electricity and you can grow a nice run if you do it properly. I recommend the Screen of Green method, or scrog. I'm in a hurry or I'd put up some links.
I agree. I used to have a hot tub at my house, and window units in my garage. My electric bill was crazy high. If you run a small scale operation, I doubt it will throw any red flags. Also, in America they don't bust people by checking the heat over houses. The reason why is because the equipment they use is so powerful it can detect the heat of your body. What happens if your having sex? Invasion of privacy.;) The smell however, could be a problem if you live in a small apartment.
There is a really good book out there. I think its called the marijuana bible. Anyways, read up before you make any decisions. Jail is boring as shit.
I agree. I used to have a hot tub at my house, and window units in my garage. My electric bill was crazy high. If you run a small scale operation, I doubt it will throw any red flags. Also, in America they don't bust people by checking the heat over houses. The reason why is because the equipment they use is so powerful it can detect the heat of your body. What happens if your having sex? Invasion of privacy.;) The smell however, could be a problem if you live in a small apartment.
There is a really good book out there. I think its called the marijuana bible. Anyways, read up before you make any decisions. Jail is boring as shit.
watch out for the electric bill. Also the neighbors and the area is a big variable. Some are chill, like in VT where a ton of people grow weed or are involved in the trade or Cali. But it really depends on your area. I've watched DEA episodes where the feds talk to all the neighbors and they all knew about marijuana grow houses. But they didnt call or tell the cops cuz they didn't care. Its all about luck I guess. I heard third hand about a story where someone in the neighborhood was in law enforcement somehow. He basically barged in and straightend out a local junkie on his own accord...
the electric bill is a myth. the electric companies could care less if you spend 100 a month or 1000. Thats not going to get you in trouble. Loose lips sink ships. Keep your mouth shut and nothing will happen
Running your mouth is the biggest problem, but the electric bill thing is not entirely true. It would have to be a large scale operation before you'd run up a big enough bill for the electric bitches to say anything. They want you to run up a big bill.
If it bothers you though, look into growing under CFLs. They don't use as much electricity and you can grow a nice run if you do it properly. I recommend the Screen of Green method, or scrog. I'm in a hurry or I'd put up some links.
I believe you're refering to the "sea of green" method, just wanted to clarify that for those who may be interested. Yahooka.com is a decent source of info for this type of grow.
I was watching cops the other day on tv and the police were chasing a man, caught him in some guys back yard. The owner of the house had left the back door open and the cops peered in and saw multiple plants, busting him instantly. That aside, i'd say the most crucial part like others have said is keeping your mouth shut.
the electric bill is a myth. the electric companies could care less if you spend 100 a month or 1000. Thats not going to get you in trouble. Loose lips sink ships. Keep your mouth shut and nothing will happen
In a sense your partially right. Problem is if police suspected you first thing theyd do if they could get a warrant would be to look at your electricity bills and usage, cuz it is a giveaway. Your bill won't really arouse suspicion or implicate you. It becomes a problem once youve been implicated and they suspect you, cuz at that point they can use it against you.
So, it seems as though it's safer to grow outside if you're looking to dodge the electricity bills, right? But then there's the smell issue, which is probably the worst one of the lot. I know that if I was growing, I wouldn't tell anyone so that's not an issue. I'd just be worried it would stink to shit.
What about growing weed outside, in somewhere which ISN'T your own back yard? Like hiding a plant somewhere?
So, it seems as though it's safer to grow outside if you're looking to dodge the electricity bills, right? But then there's the smell issue, which is probably the worst one of the lot. I know that if I was growing, I wouldn't tell anyone so that's not an issue. I'd just be worried it would stink to shit.
What about growing weed outside, in somewhere which ISN'T your own back yard? Like hiding a plant somewhere?
Don't grow it in your backyard. Growing in a forest or something is a better idea. You won't produce high quality "kush", but it's still weed. Make sure you choose an area that is well hidden, but that you can find again, and don't tell anybody about it.
In a sense your partially right. Problem is if police suspected you first thing theyd do if they could get a warrant would be to look at your electricity bills and usage, cuz it is a giveaway. Your bill won't really arouse suspicion or implicate you. It becomes a problem once youve been implicated and they suspect you, cuz at that point they can use it against you.
^this.
Marijuana-growers use copious quantities of electricity to grow clandestine plants under high- intensity lights, but they need not worry about scrutiny from their power utility, provided they pay their bills. Several hydro suppliers said yesterday they would not report to police a spike in electricity use from any particular address.
"If they're paying their bills, it's not a hydro theft issue," said Al Manchee, spokesman for Hydro One, Ontario's largest electricity supplier with 1.2 million customers across the province. "We don't get involved in legal issues. We're not a police force."
Toronto Hydro, which supplies power to the City of Toronto, said a drop in electricity usage would lead to suspicions that someone had tampered with the meter. But a big increase in electricity consumption "wouldn't raise the same kinds of flags," said Blair Peberdy, a spokesman.
"If it's going through the meter, there is less likelihood that we would notify police," Mr. Peberdy said. "There is a tremendous amount of renovation going on. People add jacuzzis, a new furnace, or air conditioning."
But if a meter reader notices tampering to steal power, the utility will notify police, he said. He estimates Toronto Hydro lost $2-million to electricity theft last year, much of it linked to those growing pot.
Just using a lot of electric isn't enough to kick in your door, I think some places require a warrant for the cops to even look at that (but not in canada, lol)
The Supreme Court of Canada has ruled that police can obtain household power records and attach digital recording devices to suspected grow homes to track electricity usage patterns as part of pre-warrant investigations.
That being said, closet growers shouldn't be worried. A 1kw lamp uses the same electricity as an air conditioner, so if you run your lamp 12/12, it looks just like you're running your a/c.
I think it's mostly greed and pride that gets you caught. Your getting a lot of weed out of one plant, you don't need 45 at a time.
Besides, if you're a pretty little guy like me then it doesn't take much to get me stoned at all. I'd barely smoke my way through the plant, it would probably flower faster than I could smoke it
Just using a lot of electric isn't enough to kick in your door, I think some places require a warrant for the cops to even look at that (but not in canada, lol)
That quote was taken completely out of context. If your stealing electricity your going to get in trouble for it. If your using a lot of electricity and paying for it, its not a problem. People are getting caught b/c they cannot keep their mouth shut.
That quote was taken completely out of context. If your stealing electricity your going to get in trouble for it. If your using a lot of electricity and paying for it, its not a problem. People are getting caught b/c they cannot keep their mouth shut.
...and the cops are using electricity consumption as corroborating evidence, stolen or not.
I agree with you about people keeping their mouths shut. No informant = No pics, no audio, no sale.
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Also, I once heard of a guy who was caught because he bought all the supplies he needed to grow marijuana at one store and the guy he bought it from got suspicious and reported it. So make sure if you do grow marijuana that you buy everything at different locations.
There are a few. There are of course, remidies to all of them
If you were growing indoors, I imagine you'd need a fair amount of heat (From lighting) before they'd see you on something like FLIR right?
Short story: When growing, be an asslicker who does nothing wrong.
I've been told that three or four HPS Security lamps from the Home Depot seem to do the trick for a closet sized setup. Maybe 20 square feet of floorspace or so.
"Oh yeah I know a guy that grows"
"A friend of mine grows it him self"
If it bothers you though, look into growing under CFLs. They don't use as much electricity and you can grow a nice run if you do it properly. I recommend the Screen of Green method, or scrog. I'm in a hurry or I'd put up some links.
It depends how many plants you're rocking though.
If you have say 3, it's like having an extra computer running 24/7... But if you're turnin your whole apt. into a grow op it will become a factor...
You mean how many lights? It's possible to grow 5 or so under a 600w MH or HPS. I opted for CFL back in the day though. Still, it put the leccy bill from ~£70/month to ~£110/month, not including fans etc.
I agree. I used to have a hot tub at my house, and window units in my garage. My electric bill was crazy high. If you run a small scale operation, I doubt it will throw any red flags. Also, in America they don't bust people by checking the heat over houses. The reason why is because the equipment they use is so powerful it can detect the heat of your body. What happens if your having sex? Invasion of privacy.;) The smell however, could be a problem if you live in a small apartment.
There is a really good book out there. I think its called the marijuana bible. Anyways, read up before you make any decisions. Jail is boring as shit.
I do believe that you mean the cannabis grow bible good sir. It can be downloaded from the following links:
Torrent: https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3551790/%28EBook%29_-_Marijuana_-_The_Cannabis_Grow_Bible.pdf
Megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5VV1H3IB
Now for the answer.
1. They want to get caught.
or
2. They are too stupid not to.
I believe you're refering to the "sea of green" method, just wanted to clarify that for those who may be interested. Yahooka.com is a decent source of info for this type of grow.
I was watching cops the other day on tv and the police were chasing a man, caught him in some guys back yard. The owner of the house had left the back door open and the cops peered in and saw multiple plants, busting him instantly. That aside, i'd say the most crucial part like others have said is keeping your mouth shut.
In a sense your partially right. Problem is if police suspected you first thing theyd do if they could get a warrant would be to look at your electricity bills and usage, cuz it is a giveaway. Your bill won't really arouse suspicion or implicate you. It becomes a problem once youve been implicated and they suspect you, cuz at that point they can use it against you.
What about growing weed outside, in somewhere which ISN'T your own back yard? Like hiding a plant somewhere?
^this.
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Just using a lot of electric isn't enough to kick in your door, I think some places require a warrant for the cops to even look at that (but not in canada, lol) link
That being said, closet growers shouldn't be worried. A 1kw lamp uses the same electricity as an air conditioner, so if you run your lamp 12/12, it looks just like you're running your a/c.
Besides, if you're a pretty little guy like me then it doesn't take much to get me stoned at all. I'd barely smoke my way through the plant, it would probably flower faster than I could smoke it
That quote was taken completely out of context. If your stealing electricity your going to get in trouble for it. If your using a lot of electricity and paying for it, its not a problem. People are getting caught b/c they cannot keep their mouth shut.
...and the cops are using electricity consumption as corroborating evidence, stolen or not.
I agree with you about people keeping their mouths shut. No informant = No pics, no audio, no sale.
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