Where would it be possible to live off the land? — Totseans

Where would it be possible to live off the land?

proudclod9proudclod9 Regular
edited December 2010 in Life
I.e.: where is it legal to hunt, fish, gather/plant food, etc. without having to worry about liscenses and tresspassing. You know? Wilderness.

That's honestly my biggest holdback.


I would like to do it somewhere in Canada, miles and miles from society, but anywhere cold would work well.

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  • Gary OakGary Oak Regular
    edited December 2010
    Probably Eastern Europe.
  • MayberryMayberry Regular
    edited December 2010
    Mid-Northern coast of BC or Vancouver Island.
  • fanglekaifanglekai Regular
    edited December 2010
    Africa. It's fair game.
  • Gary OakGary Oak Regular
    edited December 2010
    fanglekai wrote: »
    Africa. It's fair game.
    Human. The most dangerous game.
  • proudclod9proudclod9 Regular
    edited December 2010
    Yeah, I figured a cold place would be best--you can just store your meat somewhere under snow. :)
  • fanglekaifanglekai Regular
    edited December 2010
    proudclod9 wrote: »
    Yeah, I figured a cold place would be best--you can just store your meat somewhere under snow. :)

    inb4omgwtfbearsatemyfoodimstarvingtodeath
  • proudclod9proudclod9 Regular
    edited December 2010
    fanglekai wrote: »
    inb4omgwtfbearsatemyfoodimstarvingtodeath

    hahahahaha. fuck you.
  • DirtySanchezDirtySanchez Regular
    edited December 2010
    fanglekai wrote: »
    inb4omgwtfbearsatemyfoodimstarvingtodeath

    inb4nextcristophermccandlesandstarvinginbusfrompoisonpotatoefungus :o
  • proudclod9proudclod9 Regular
    edited December 2010
    inb4nextcristophermccandlesandstarvinginbusfrompoisonpotatoefungus:o

    I'd die knowing I'd be famous. Well, somewhat.

    Anyway, I'm not stupid.
  • fanglekaifanglekai Regular
    edited December 2010
    This whole idea is stupid. Let me guess, you're a stoner? Half the stoners I've known in my life have wanted this same thing: to live off the land and grow weed. It's retarded. Get a job, make lots of money and buy whatever the fuck you want. Use a room of your house to grow weed.
  • proudclod9proudclod9 Regular
    edited December 2010
    What I want is solitude for an extended period of time, and to know that I can fend for myself in a survival situation.(Hey, shit might go south while I'm out)

    I guess I could grow weed out there; though I honestly didn't think of that...and yeah, I smoke, big deal: probably 90% of totse are stoners.


    ha
  • DirtySanchezDirtySanchez Regular
    edited December 2010
    proudclod9 wrote: »
    What I want is solitude for an extended period of time, and to know that I can fend for myself in a survival situation.(Hey, shit might go south while I'm out)

    I guess I could grow weed out there; though I honestly didn't think of that...and yeah, I smoke, big deal: probably 90% of totse are stoners.


    ha

    Count me out of that 90%. I smoke weed but I reject stoner culture and all it's nigger loving rasta worshipping wigger glory.
  • proudclod9proudclod9 Regular
    edited December 2010
    *pothead, smoker, toker, whatever term you're comfortable with man; it doesn't really make a difference.

    I will keep with my research, and when I've come up with my supply list and destination, I'll post back.
  • fanglekaifanglekai Regular
    edited December 2010
    Count me out of that 90%. I smoke weed but I reject stoner culture and all it's nigger loving rasta worshipping wigger glory.

    This. Being a stoner is fail. Most of the stoners I've known were pathetic white trash who didn't even have a high school diploma. Now, I've known other people who smoke without embracing the retardation that is stoner "culture".

    You want some solitude? Go camping for a few weeks. Trying to "live off the land" is beyond retarded. People are not meant to "live off the land" alone. If anything goes wrong, you're fucked. You get the flu and can't go get food? Fucked. Fall down and break your leg? Fucked. Cut yourself? Get an infection and then fucked. Bear eats all your food (and maybe you)? Fucked.

    The gear you need to survive pretty much anywhere is going to be extensive and very costly. You'll need a way to get drinking water. You'll need a way to make fire for an extended period of time. You'll have to get fishing equipment or hunting gear. You'll need several changes of warm clothes. You'll need some kind of shelter. You also need medicine, hygiene stuff like a toothbrush unless you want your teeth to rot out. You'll also need a rifle so you can kill large animals that try to attack you (bears). You'll also need some kind of bug spray unless you want to get eaten to death by mosquitoes. You'll need very good hiking boots and lots of socks. You will need a good knife and probably a hatchet, ax or saw for firewood. You need a sleeping bag, ground pad, tent and you'll need a pack to carry all this. Oh, and toilet paper, unless you like leaves. You'll need a shovel to bury your shit so bears don't come around, and you'll need a bear bag or something to protect your gear. You'll need maps and a compass. You'll want a satellite phone in case you get fucked. A GPS device would be advisable as well.

    The list of supplies goes on and on. In short, going camping for a month is feasible with the right gear. Living in the middle of nowhere is beyond most people's ability. It's not feasible without a steady source of food and a large supply of potable water. Sure, people like Lewis and Clark and their crew explored America, but they had the help of native Americans and game animals and fish were way, way more plentiful back then because they hadn't all been killed off and/or driven away.

    If you want solitude, go camping. Forget living in the middle of nowhere.
  • fanglekaifanglekai Regular
    edited December 2010
    spazz wrote: »
    It is to possible to live in the woods, and it aint that hard.(most of the time)

    Shit there has been many stories of people like you, Hardly even went camping before wind up lost in places with reasonable climate and live.and come out saying that it was the worst and best thing to ever happen to them.

    Most ppls will to live outweighs their lazyness

    It is hard without the right gear. Most people will die or make it to civilization. No one lives in the middle of nowhere with no gear, especially not in cold climate like Canada.
  • MayberryMayberry Regular
    edited December 2010
    Depending where you are, certain parts of Canada are quite mild. We even have a psuedodesert :o
  • DirtySanchezDirtySanchez Regular
    edited December 2010
    spazz wrote: »
    It is to possible to live in the woods, and it aint that hard.(most of the time)

    Shit there has been many stories of people like you, Hardly even went camping before wind up lost in places with reasonable climate for months with little or no gear(cirtainly not as much as fangly suggested thats too much stuff)and live.and come out saying that it was the worst and best thing to ever happen to them.

    Most ppls will to live outweighs their lazyness

    This. It's definitely possible but for some reason i doubt op can pull it off. The Una bomber did it. One thing I want to know though is OP what kind of experienc do you have with this sort of thing? Like have been camping and are you an OK hunter and fisher? Btw if you do this bringing a rifle is highly advisable. I'd say atleast a 30 06 if bears are an issue.
  • edited December 2010
    fanglekai wrote: »
    This. Being a stoner is fail. Most of the stoners I've known were pathetic white trash who didn't even have a high school diploma. Now, I've known other people who smoke without embracing the retardation that is stoner "culture".

    No man, you're just a square man. It's like, weed is everything man. And Bob Marley is everything too man.
  • fanglekaifanglekai Regular
    edited December 2010
    spazz wrote: »
    lol what about Eskimos?

    i think most ppl are just too soft to do it.

    Eskimos grow up doing it. Their people have been there for generations, and they know how to survive where they live. The OP does not.
    Mayberry wrote: »
    Depending where you are, certain parts of Canada are quite mild. We even have a psuedodesert :o

    Good to know.
    This. It's definitely possible but for some reason i doubt op can pull it off. The Una bomber did it. One thing I want to know though is OP what kind of experienc do you have with this sort of thing? Like have been camping and are you an OK hunter and fisher? Btw if you do this bringing a rifle is highly advisable. I'd say atleast a 30 06 if bears are an issue.

    Sure some people can do it, but they bring supplies, make a shelter (the unabomber had a shack he built), and they have to have a constant food supply. What will you do in the winter when the fish are gone and the other animals hibernate? What happens if your sleeping bag gets a hole in it and it's freezing outside?

    These are the kinds of things that might sound stupid, but anyone who does not prepare before going off into the wilderness is a moron. Do it if you want, but don't leave home without the right gear and expect to survive on grass and pinecones.
  • fanglekaifanglekai Regular
    edited December 2010
    No man, you're just a square man. It's like, weed is everything man. And Bob Marley is everything too man.

    That hurts :sad:
  • fanglekaifanglekai Regular
    edited December 2010
    Um, bear attack is a pretty gruesome way to die.
  • MooseKnuckleMooseKnuckle Regular
    edited December 2010
    the bear doesnt always win.

    bare-hands-bear.jpg
  • fanglekaifanglekai Regular
    edited December 2010
    1 of 2 ever recorded. The OP will not be so lucky.
  • MayberryMayberry Regular
    edited December 2010
  • AmieAmie Regular
    edited December 2010
    spazz wrote: »
    lol what about Eskimos?

    Eskimos have modern rifles, gas powered snowsleds etc.

    They don't live anything like 100 years ago anymore, and they probably couldn't do it anymore, just like the rest of humanity.

    OP: If you do this, the same thing that happened to 90% of the people who tried this will happen to you: you will die, alone, in the wilderness, from something benign. In a year, people will stop thinking about you, in ten years your body might be found and a missing person case might be closed. You won't be famous, you won't be loved / missed much. You'll just die miserable, cold and alone.

    But if that's what you want, I'd say go for it.
  • OnesanOnesan Acolyte
    edited December 2010
    deleted, dupe post :/
  • edited December 2010
    You should probably take a modern survival kit with you or something, just in case something random happens and you need to shoot something in the face, or call your friends, or something.
  • OnesanOnesan Acolyte
    edited December 2010
    the bear doesnt always win.

    No your right it dosent, and while i dont have bears where i am, i do have a idea.
    Yours (bear dosent always win), + fanglekais (the other animals hibernate), + DirtySanchez'es (I'd say atleast a 30 06 if bears are an issue) + a nice bear cave and as the bears hibernation is over alarm clock http://www.vidmax.com/video/4474/Pakistani_villagers_set_a_live_bear_on_fire/

    Seems either a quite feasible idea to get slightly pre cooked breakfast, or a great way to get yourself mauled to death by a bear on fire :D

    Edit: mmm bearburgers XD
  • fanglekaifanglekai Regular
    edited December 2010
    If you want to survive out there, learn how to do it. This is Totse. Read * Know * Do. Don't go jumping into something without preparing yourself.
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