So, what does the community think about banning failtrolls? They contribute nothing, derail threads, and spam up discussions with garbage posts.
Should they be banned?
Should mods unapprove their posts?
Should their failtrolling constitute free speech and they be left to post as they please?
This is something that needs to be addressed while the community is young and we have relatively few failtrolls. I don't want to see this place become full of trolls and garbage, but at the same time there need to be clear cut rules.
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No, if the post is no longer visible, free speech is infringed. Post count doesn't = free speech. Make a trashcan forum, no need for sticky threads taking up space in specialty forums. The especially troublesome users get their own thread in the trashcan where all their shitposts get moved to.
Seconded, that guy is a faggot :mad:
Haha I had no clue that's who he was. Makes sense now.
The one thing I liked about totse was that it was intimidating on its own, and could self regulate without having rules for everything. It will be difficult, but I hope that one day we will recreate that culture.
It seems difficult now, but just ignore what you don't like, and contribute what you do like. Everyone receives the special chance to shape the forum in their own image.
I like to think of Half Baked as having its own culture, and as a place for HBers to make their threads, not a place for moderators to move trash.
I wish that moderators would send trash from their forums to NIMF. That forum is the official trashcan, and posting is enabled in it.
I don't see why we should allow worthless, off topic posting in the serious forums. HB, B&M and even SG to an extent are where that kind of posting belong. We don't want T&T, W&C, or the humanities section getting filled with garbage, or do we?
Just move them here. :thumbsup:
I am guessing that not many of these morons have read Animal Farm. These idiots run from Zoklet screaming free speech and no sooner is the farmer dead than they start eating from his table and wearing his cloths.
LOL @ your butthurt and misconceptions. It must all be very difficult for you fangkli
Well put. I'd imagine that the book was simply too many pages for them to get through.
I know this might seem foolish, but I believe that we should address problems once they actually occur, not create a broad group called "fail trolls" to put people into.
I know that totse had rules, and they were enforced more strictly than us or zoklet, even in forums like SG, but I rarely saw a thread in a technical forum that did not belong there. I am someone who complains about zoklet, but even their technical forums contain decent content.
Totse might have hated spam, but I do not think it ever had a "no off topic posts rule". That little rule was created by zoklet and has caused only unnecessary conflict. That is what I mean when I say intimidating, I did not usually see people posting off topic on totse by their own choice. I also do not think one liners should be called spam, personally, I like to enter a thread and see a clever one liner, and it takes about a second to scroll down and read the content.
What is truly revealing is who voted for approval. 80% of those who have voted for option 2 are mods.
*and the power mongering began as the new sanctuary of the temple was placed upon a bed of sand*
Zoklet is failing because of power mad little angry teens with their fingers on buttons. Just like you...
Saying "Failtrolls" was supposed to be a way to generate discussion. Personally I think the trash can idea sounds like the best one offered so far. I don't think we need to ban people outright. When I made the poll the 3 main choices seemed to be ban people who post garbage, remove their posts, or let them post whatever they want wherever.
I also agree that off topic posting is fine, and users often get threads back on track later. Clever one liners add something to the thread.
Discussing this issue is important now rather than later.
If I was "power mad" don't you think I would have or tried to ban Helladamnleet for reporting me? Go ahead and try that on zoklet and see how long it is before you're banned.
Define failtroll objectively because Moderator is already so defined.
P.S. That means without interjecting your opinion.
:facepalm:
This is exactly the kind of duck and dodge I expected when you were forced to put up or shut up. You keep calling me a "fail troll", but you sure dance for me real nice. Its kind of like you are clown....you know...a dancing clown, or mabye a little dog that barks on command. Keep dancing clown.
So the guy who only makes threads about cock is saying he's not a fail troll?:facepalm:
You know thats not true.
Oh I forgot that "Do a rape" was contributing to the forum.
No need to ban.. just unapprove their posts.
1. I am not the one using the term.
2. I am not the one proposing the beginning of the of free speech on Totse based on the term.
If you can not objectively define the term in the context of this thread then all you will have accomplished, if this becomes enacted, is to set up Totse for the kind of butt hurt abuse handed out by faggots like FlabbyShark and his nugget buddy Zos over at Zoklet. I have been a dick on purpose to see if this bunch was any different than the mods over there (well except for SquirtyManjiz he is just fun to wind up). Your response to my efforts speaks volumes about where this site is headed if it grows.
If you pussies can't handle one old man being a dick how the fuck are you gonna handle 5 or 10 thousand users without becoming what you ran from?
I don't need to define failtroll. The community can define it. That's the entire point of this thread: See what users want to do about failtrolls like yourself spamming up the forum with garbage.
I'm glad you see the reason why I want to do this now rather than later. We don't have 5000 users doing it, so we can decide what to do now rather than later. Good thinking.
i 2nd that.
With your "guidance" of course.
Wow, you should head straight to IRC and apply for a job with Zok.
You have yet to answer the question of what a failtroll is. Instead you duck and dive rather than face the fact that you have made an error in judgment and wisdom.
Or this.... (which is full of subjective adjectives)
But the OP is the one who needs to objectively define the term for the purpose of this thread.