WikiLeaks: Julian Assange 'faces execution or Guantánamo detention

Darth BeaverDarth Beaver Meine Ehre heißt Treue
edited January 2011 in Spurious Generalities
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Anyone who did not see this coming is living in a dream world. This guy is a walking dead man.
Skeleton argument outlined by Australian's defence team claims he could face rendition to US if extradited to Sweden

Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, could be at "real risk" of the death penalty or detention in Guantánamo Bay if he is extradited to Sweden on accusations of rape and sexual assault, his lawyers claim.
In a skeleton summary of their defence against attempts by the Swedish director of public prosecutions to extradite him, released today, Assange's legal team argue that there is a similar likelihood that the US would subsequently seek his extradition "and/or illegal rendition", "where there will be a real risk of him being detained at Guantánamo Bay or elsewhere".
"Indeed, if Mr Assange were rendered to the USA, without assurances that the death penalty would not be carried out, there is a real risk that he could be made subject to the death penalty. It is well known that prominent figures have implied, if not stated outright, that Mr Assange should be executed."
The 35-page skeleton argument was released by Mark Stephens, Assange's lawyer, following a brief review hearing this morning at Belmarsh magistrates court.
The WikiLeaks founder, who is on conditional bail while his extradition case is being considered, appeared for no more than 15 minutes in the dock, while supporters including Jemima Khan and Bianca Jagger looked on and waved support from the public gallery.
He later emerged to give a brief statement to a large number of reporters, saying: "Our work with WikiLeaks continues unabated. We are stepping up our publications for matters relating to Cablegate and other materials.
"These will shortly be available through our newspaper partners around the world – big and small newspapers and human rights organisations."
The skeleton argument outlines seven points on which Assange's lawyers will contest his extradition, which was sought by the Swedish DPP, Marianne Ny, following accusations from two women that he had sexually assaulted them in separate incidents in August.
One accusation, that Assange had sex with one of the women while she was asleep, would amount to rape under Swedish law if proven. Both women had previously had consenting sex with Assange.
The other points of argument include:
• That the European arrest warrant (EAW) is not valid, because Ny is not the authorised issuing authority, and it has been sought for an improper purpose – ie "simply in order to question him and without having yet reached a decision on whether or not to prosecute him". This, they argue, would be in contravention of a well-established principle "that mere suspicion should not found a request for extradition".
• That there has been "abuse of process" as Assange has not had full disclosure of all documents relating to the case, in particular text messages sent by one of the women, in which she allegedly said she was "half asleep" (ie not fully asleep) at the time they had sex, and messages between the two women in which they allegedly spoke of "revenge".
• That the "conduct" of the Swedish prosecutor amounts to abuse of process. Assange's lawyers cite the fact that the rape allegations were initially dismissed and then reopened by a second prosecutor, that the prosecutor has refused Assange's offers of interview, and that it has not made documents available to Assange in English. They also cite the leak of part of the prosecution case to the Guardian as "a breach of Mr Assange's fair trial and privacy rights".
• That the alleged offences would not be considered crimes in the UK, and therefore, they argue, an EAW between the two countries would not be valid.
• That the extradition attempt is politically motivated, and that his trial would be prejudiced because of his political opinions or because, they argue, of his gender.
Assange's team will make their case on 7 and 8 February, when Assange will return to court for the full extradition hearing. The case for his extradition is being argued by the Crown Prosecution Service on behalf of the Swedish prosecutor; the full prosecution case is not expected to be released before that date.
District Judge Nicholas Evans agreed at this morning's hearing to ease the terms of his bail conditions, which require Assange to wear an electronic tag and report daily to a police station close to the stately home on the Suffolk/Norfolk border where he is staying. For the nights of 6 and 7 February Assange will be permitted to stay in London.

Comments

  • RemadERemadE Global Moderator
    edited January 2011
    Haha o wow. Bye bye future, looks like anyone who dares speak out against the big bad bully known as the USA will be thrown into a camp or killed.

    ausch-lib10.jpg

    Fucking hate America. Everyone should just leave there and let the Government die out. Anyone who though Obama would change things was living in a dream world.
  • -SpectraL-SpectraL Will Faggert
    edited January 2011
    About the death threats from the White House... just goes to show how criminals and mass murderers in the American government are just as stupid as other criminals and mass murderers, and eventually that blunt stupidity catches up with them just like the common kind. Too funny.
  • DfgDfg Admin
    edited January 2011
    Hahha, took them long enough. He went a bit too far.
  • Darth BeaverDarth Beaver Meine Ehre heißt Treue
    edited January 2011
    This is not about America this is more about the world at large making and example out of someone who set a precedent that no power in the world wants to see repeated. If UN member nations allow this to pass it could be England, France, China, Russia, or any other nations secure diplomatic cables that get leaked.

    You can't seriously believe that a PFC stole all these documents without help or a blind eye being turned at the very least. This smells like another problem that was created to create more control if you ask me.
  • RemadERemadE Global Moderator
    edited January 2011
    I'd gladly take on his position if I were a bit older. Assange has made history and set a precedent that will never be surpassed within the next 10 years or so. He wasn't ahead of his time, hwoever. Just doing what the public was interested in knowing anyway so I suppose he did them a favour.
    Completely understand that the free speech thing isn't censored in America and he did break the law in their Country, but

    a) It was going to come out eventually when the documents were declassified and found, but over a much larger timeframe.
    b) Breaking the law sometimes needs to be done for the safety and security of those interested. Look at the ones about how the Iraq Inquiry in London was stages for Blair, and the amount of shit happening in Iraq etc.
    c) If it wasn't him, then someone else would have done it.
  • -SpectraL-SpectraL Will Faggert
    edited January 2011
    What he should do is try and use "legitimate" sources to release the stuff. Go to medium-sized media outlets and try and get them to publish it instead WikiLeaks. Then the thugs would have to go after the newspaper companies, and that would definitely get very messy for them eventually.
  • Darth BeaverDarth Beaver Meine Ehre heißt Treue
    edited January 2011
    -SpectraL wrote: »
    What he should do is try and use "legitimate" sources to release the stuff. Go to medium-sized media outlets and try and get them to publish it instead WikiLeaks. Then the thugs would have to go after the newspaper companies, and that would definitely get very messy for them eventually.

    Yes that would have been a better path for him personally. But you and I have been in the game long enough to know that no "legitimate" media source was gonna touch those cables. But if they had the 1st amendment would have been seriously challenged by the feds in court over this one.
  • AD2011AD2011 Acolyte
    edited January 2011
    I wish nations involved would see that there's no shame/embarrassment involved in any of the cables unless you care what eghh America thinks, and they decided to pull the unruly teenager of a nation into line.

    There were consequences for cutting off his finances, think of the progression of these should any other interference happen and be more of a nuisance/insult.
  • dr rockerdr rocker Regular
    edited January 2011
    I think the USA's problem is not so much what got released, just the fact that it did. It shows to other countries how easy it is to bust the USA's security.

    Think of the resources China, Russia, France and the UK spend on spying on the USA - it will be in the billions a year. Now, some guy from Austrailia comes along and pretty much says 'tell me and I will do something with it' and he gets all of that.

    Most, if not all of the diplomatic cables mean dick all. All of the countries that were slurred pretty much came out winking and said 'well, you should hear what we say in private' and had a little chuckle to themselve.

    The US is pissed as a private citizen pretty much threw all of the USA's dirty washing all over the town sqaure at lunchtime whilst the office bods were sitting on the nice benches eating their sandwiches.

    The USA is worried those decent townspeople will soon realise that if a guy can do that, what a determined foriegn power can do.
  • Darth BeaverDarth Beaver Meine Ehre heißt Treue
    edited January 2011
    The whole point is it is not just the U.S. that is helping crush him. Britain has him detained so he can be shipped off to a nation that will extradite him to the U.S. There is an international effort taking place to fuck this guy hard. The sanctity of encrypted diplomatic cables is something no one in the UN wants to see compromised. He is going to be made an example of by all the nations of the world.
  • Gary OakGary Oak Regular
    edited January 2011
    He got fucked hard. What do you expect would happen? You can't just fuck an entire country for no reason without any consequences. He's also getting a life sentence for fucking J-Walking. We all know he didn't rape that girl, but they'll find something and they'll stick you for that shit.
  • -SpectraL-SpectraL Will Faggert
    edited January 2011
    I wonder if he would agree be be executed by the United States politicians? Imagine the publicity for his cause! Buttons, posters, banners, a three-CD compilation of his greatest hits! The sky would be the limit once he's offed himself by throwing himself on America's dull (but still pointy) sword.
  • blindbatblindbat Regular
    edited January 2011
    did he ever release info on UFOs and aliens?
  • -SpectraL-SpectraL Will Faggert
    edited January 2011
    blindbat wrote: »
    did he ever release info on UFOs and aliens?
    No... that was called the Disclosure Project, and including sworn testimony from top United States officials in the military and in the White House, each one confirming alien technology and alien contact, and ready to testify in front of a grand jury that aliens exist and have visited our planet many times.
  • KatzenklavierKatzenklavier Regular
    edited January 2011
    Source plz.
  • -SpectraL-SpectraL Will Faggert
    edited January 2011
  • KatzenklavierKatzenklavier Regular
    edited January 2011
    No I meant OP
  • homeslice4700homeslice4700 Regular
    edited January 2011
    no aliens crashed on earth :facepalm:
  • MayberryMayberry Regular
    edited January 2011
    no aliens crashed on earth :facepalm:

    Then why are you so ugly? :confused:
  • homeslice4700homeslice4700 Regular
    edited January 2011
    Mayberry wrote: »
    Then why are you so ugly? :confused:

    I don't know? Genetics maybe? poor diet? Smoking?

    Could be a list of reasons
  • MayberryMayberry Regular
    edited January 2011
    I don't know? Genetics maybe? poor diet? Smoking?

    Could be a list of reasons

    alein r mos belivabo :o
  • homeslice4700homeslice4700 Regular
    edited January 2011
    Mayberry wrote: »
    alein r mos belivabo :o

    I believe there is intelligent life out there I don't believe they visited earth why do I believe that?
    1. It would take forever to get here
    2. If they used some amazing technology or worm holes and they make it all the way to earth but then they crash when crusing around? :facepalm:
    3. Why would they make the 20+ light year trip to hide from us
    4. If they're trying to remain undetected they obviously blew they're cover so why won't they come out then and say hello?
  • AD2011AD2011 Acolyte
    edited January 2011
    If they used some amazing technology or worm holes and they make it all the way to earth but then they crash when crusing around? :facepalm:
    ]

    This.

    Typical that this happened in America too - one of the few Countries where a "zomg Government cover up!" sounds half plausible. If it ever happened in Australia we would be like "he cunts check this shit out".

    It happened supposedly when? Like 50 years ago? And yet America hasn't hidden this all this time to exploit their technology, obviously...unless this space ship flown by men from BEYOND THE FUCKING MOOOON! were driving a Buick that got 1/2 mile to the gallon.
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