So first of the release of Megrahi the alleged Lockerbie bomber released by Scotland.
America want this terminally ill man put back in prison because he didn't die quick enough. Don't they realise he was released under the condition that he didn't appeal. If he did he would have probably won looking at the shaky evidence. Highlights the arrogance of American government that they think they can lord it over other countries. They also went on to accuse BP of being involved in the release. BP is 50% American owned.
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America protests against Iran firing up their nuclear reactor. Even though they have the right to have a civilian power plant and have allowed inspectors in. Contrary to America's ally Israel who has Nuclear Weapons but refuses to let the inspectors in. The double standards are incredible and make America look even more stupid. Also, these plants are protected by Russia so we all know that any complaints against this is just posturing.
America sends rotten food as food aid to Somalia, militants burn it. There are pictures showing the wheat as clumpy and mouldy.
America gets the "Merchant of Death". The world's biggest arms dealer is putting on trial the world's most prolific arms dealer. He must have been cutting into there profits.
A clear message is sent out to the world that America is against Islam, or at least intolerant of muslims. This is what Bin Laden claimed of America, and it seems he has been proved right.
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All those millions of barrels of oil that dissapeared. Looks like they lied about that one. "650ft high oil plume found"
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That guantanamo bay is still open too, bit hypocritical for an administration that condemns the extremists torturing people
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Now this isn't a personal attack on any Americans, I'm just showing how you're country is coming across in the media. It seems to be one embarassment after another. America is steadily becoming a laughing stock.
Do the majority of Americans agree with these things. The stance of Al Megrahi? Guantanamo?
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Not only that, we have Israeli propaganda and shills on TV every day lying and trying to convince people that (contrary to every intelligence agency in America and abroad (Except Israel's lol)) Iran is building nuclear weapons with which to threaten the U.S..
There is a good thread on this down the page a little
http://totse.info/bbs/showthread.php?t=2997
Some other semi-relevant stuff
US officials wrap up eight-nation tour on Iran sanctions
Ahmadinejad warns against Iran attack
Meantime, the former U.S. representative to the United Nations, John Bolton, told Fox News that Israel has until August 21 to attack the Bushehr facility. He said after that point there is too high a risk of spreading radiation. Bolton added that he does not think it is very likely Israel will actually launch an attack in the next week.
I'm worried about this Iran/Israeli shit.
I don't know what real benefit there is for Israel in attacking Iran, but they seem really into the idea. Why aren't other countries stepping up and telling news organizations that what is going on is horseshit? Why hasn't the Russian government, for example, sent someone to explain to CNN or NBC that this is nonsense, and that Iran is not building nuclear weapons?
Also, of course Israel won't attack before or on the 21st. If they did that, there wouldn't be radioactive shit sprayed and scattered all over the Iranian countryside.
I noticed that after Obama was elected, much of the public turned strongly against many of the things that he campaigned on and promised to do.
America has pissed russia off quite a bit recently, they aren't going to help you.
http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/Russia-Helps-Iran-Fuel-Up-First-Nuclear-Power-Plant-101221779.html
If America was to invade Iran they would be severely weakened. Also Iran would cut off 40% of the world's gas and oil supply, pushing prices up and earning Russia a lot of money and severe leverage over all of Europe.
It's Russia's involvement and friendship with Iran that makes me think we won't invade or use force against Iran. I wouldn't put it past Israel to do something, though, cunts that they are.
It's just strange to me that more people around the world aren't speaking out about how America and Israel are treating Iran. Trying to get them sanctioned and talking about military action because they've got a nuclear power program? It's fucked up.
They didn't realize he was black. Then they were all "OMFG! we elected a nigger!" and didn't know how to behave.
Seriously though, I've noticed the same thing. People wanted Guantanamo closed and health care reform and the wars ended, and now it's no to all of that. I don't get it.
From what I've seen, it's a combination of whites being guilt-tripped/teased/whatever by friends, family and co-workers for having voted for Obama and all of the right wing media's bullshit (Communists hiding in the white-house, government takeover of the economy, etc).
The only benefit Israel cares about is being able to show there force once again. There a rogue nation that nobody will acknowledge as one. The double standard with Israel is astounding no other country could get away with a fraction of what they do on a daily basis. Unfortunantly this will never change unless we can end the zionist influence in our own goverment.
This I don't understand. What do the stockholders have to do with the accusation that British Petroleum acted inappropriately? BTW, it's 25 American institutions and 14 individuals that hold 39% of British Petroleum's stock. And British Petroleum acted inappropriately.
Agreed.
Fuck em. They're lucky we sent them anything.
epic. Well, if he was selling arms to people we don't want him selling arms to, what's the problem? You're oversimplifying a lot of these points into anti-American propaganda, which speaks volumes about your intentions here.
Yes, we are, and I don't believe that message is clear enough. Bin Laden himself had a hand in stoking our hatred of these idiots.
Be honest, Vicky. Nobody lied.
Agreed. I think it should stay open.
Double standards are not unique to US policy. Of course, we have our best interests in mind, not yours, and that might come across as arrogant. Laugh all you want, I know you hate America. (speaking of double standards, it's perfectly OK to hate America for hating muslims...)
He seems to have some connections in the Russian government (GRU & KGB. Sure the KGB is dead now, but most of the powerful people in Russia (Politicians and businessmen) are ex-KGB.) and he's beaten all of the other cases against him.
Is it in our best interests to go to war with Iraq and get jerked around by the Israelis, or to do any of some of the ridiculous things that this country has done over the years? We're acting in someones best interests, but I don't think it's ours.
Also, people don't hate America for disliking Muslims, they just :facepalm: at us.
No, I think extremists on both sides are using the mosque controversy to rally their troops.
Don't kid yourself if the US and Israel decided to attack Iran would be crushed with relative ease. It'd be wrong and stupid to attack them but anyone who actually see's Iran as a military threat and thinks they could actually put up a decent fight against America or Israel let alone an attack by both is blind to the facts. They may have a decent air force but to think theres is anywhere near the American or Israeli capability's is seriously blinded to the truth.
America may be capable off attacking Iran but the damage to international relations would be severe. Turkey is already threatening to severe ties with Washington and American complicity with Israel has a lot of people angry. You're lucky you don't recognise the Hague Court or the last few Presidents would have had prime seats.
If one of Iran's reactors were attacked it would have little to no effect on their total Nuclear programme, and this would turn most of the arab world against America. No one wants to see Iran becoming really powerful in the middle east, but they don't want any more American troops in there either. The tensions mounting in this area is similar to that of World War One. All it will take is one big event to set things off, but I really hope I'm wrong on this one. No one wants another world war when crazy israel has so many nukes.
If Iran is ever attacked, for example if some "national tragedy" occurs and it is deemed necessary, then it would be an extremely stupid move.
Also, I had no idea that we didn't recognize the Hague. I guess that's one way to avoid getting convicted for fighting aggressive wars and other varied crimes.
One can only push the rest of the world around so much, either way, said victory would be quite Pyhrric, states Captain Rolf.
Absolutely it would be a stupid decision on are part to attack Iran. It wouldnt be good for us in the end. Im just saying theres no way in hell Iran could defeat either the US or Israel let alone an alliance of the 2.
Kind of like Afghanistan huh? Oh wait...
No one said that Iran would win, just that it would be a hard, uphill battle. It would last longer than the 9 years it has taken to get even slightly in tune with the situation in the other occupied countries in the middle east. Go and watch fox.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_wave_attacks#Basij
It'd be really shitty.
You must be a troll.
Again, I believe it's a combination. On one hand, you have the conservative media which tells America that since the election, things have become far, far worse and all because of Obama's policies. Some media outlets even entertain the idea that he is attempting to intentionally harm the economy. On the other, you have individuals being called un-American, communists and all sorts of silly bullshit by people who disagree with their politics. This has caused many people who were once vocal supporters of Obama to stop being so supportive.
You can't really believe that he's doing poorly in the polls because of the job he's doing, can you? Since he took office, things have been improving. The measures that were put in place are slowly working and he is doing the things that we elected him to do.
If Obama loses this next election, it will be because he had the misfortune of being elected during a time of economic crisis, and because people were made to think that he was making it (And the country in general) worse, not because he screwed up.
Are you trolling, or just dense?
Again, did you read the OP? If so, why are you talking about the 2012 election when the OP is talking about America's present international failures?
I am neither, but you are evidently the latter.
Did you? lol :facepalm:
Only one of those (Guantanamo) is an example of a failed promise. Everything else is America as usual, and has little to do with Obama himself.
Because Obama's failed campaign promises (Few as they may be compared to the fulfilled ones) would probably have an impact on the next election, and you and I were having a conversation of which the main topic seems to have been Obama.
Also, did you read the OP? If so, why are you talking about Obama's failed campaign promises when the OP is talking about America's present international failures?
You're right, you are an intelligent and upstanding poster.
America Fuck Yeah
GWB has the all-time record for consecutive months of job creation, 51 to be exact. Obama has spent billions and trillions of dollars creating how many jobs?
A true leader riding a wave of unprecedented popularity during hard economic times has the opportunity to lead his country out of it. Obama has done nothing of the kind and to be perfectly honest, I don't think it's malicious. It's that his ideology comes before everything else. Had there been no opposition, no checks to Obama's out-of-control spending, I believe that we would be worse off and Obama would justify that as being necessary for recovery or some other BULLSHIT.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_policy_of_the_George_W._Bush_administration#Economic_indicators
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He's decreased monthly job-losses enormously (By hundreds of thousands per month). You're right though, fuck Obama.
The "wave of unprecedented popularity" died off just months after his election. You try passing effective economic legislation when a certain party in congress decides to put up more filibusters during your term than ever before. There have been more than 90 filibusters so far. Even ideas, policies and bills that republicans originally thought up were and are being blocked because they had the presidents support. Republicans are blocking bill after bill regardless of origin for the sake of politics and it's miraculous that democrats have managed to keep things from getting much worse.
And obviously his ideology is all that matters. That's why he has made countless concessions to get republican votes that he didn't even need for the sake of appearing bipartisan.
Did nobody learn anything from what we did to japan in WW2? The reason were still in Iraq is because were trying to help them if we wanted too we could ensure the Middle east stop existing just like that. I cant think of a country today that could beat America in an all out war. China? Hell no look at our missile defense we'd stop any nuke before it left the ground. People dont realize what the US military is truly capable of should we decide to truly unleash hell. Look at out technology, our air force which is the most important part of war these days. Nobody is a threat to us get real.
http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/#usgs302a
http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?series_id=LNS14000000
INCOME TAX REVENUE BY YEAR: ( In Billions)
2003 = 925
2004 = 998
2005 = 1,206
2006 = 1,398
2007 = 1,534
Unemployment rates during same period: :hai:
2003 = 5.7 to 6.3 %
2004 = 5.4 to 5.7 %
2005 = 4.8 to 5.4%
2006 = 4.4 to 4.8%
Well now, isn't that interesting? How can he cut taxes and increase revenue at the same time? Oh yea, tax cuts on the rich create jobs... could you imagine if Obama cut taxes on the rich? He'd lose ALL of his support, not just independents. That's what I'm talking about, son. His ideology gets in the way of actual progress.
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Need I remind you that the president has a majority in both the house AND senate? How bad does this guy suck if he can't get shit passed with a majority in BOTH houses? Because it's not just republicans who oppose his ideologically driven agenda? :hai:
If you read the graph that you linked to, you'll find that you can almost pinpoint the time when Bush's economic policies came home to roost and the country began hemorrhaging jobs. Also, read about how he increased national debt (From $144.5 billion (or 1.4% of GDP) to $962.0 billion (About 6.8% of GDP), income disparity and the budget deficit.
In fact, a huge portion of the debt incurred during his term was a direct result of the tax breaks given to the wealthiest Americans.
When he left office, unemployment was at it's highest in 15 years.
Why not address the fact that he's decreased job losses by hundreds of thousands per month?
A filibuster does not mean that enough votes couldn't be found, it means that someone in congress takes advantage of the right to unlimited debate. It takes 3/5ths of the house or senate to override a filibuster by cloture.
3/5ths is equivalent to 60%, which would mean that to override a filibuster democrats would need 260 (Excluding the remainder) votes. They do not have 260 seats, which means that unless several republicans vote against their own party (Which they don't), a filibuster cannot currently be broken.
George W bush sucked ass but it's time to stop blaming him for everything. The only reason he's decreased Job loss was because of things like census jobs that are temporary. He's socializing this country which history shows fails every time. He's had plenty of time to fix this economy and he hasn't done shit. He promised to end the war. He hasn't. He promised to close gitmo he hasn't. You know Obama is creating a "citizen Corps' its basically like his own personal army. All his stimulus bills have only increased spending. Granted Bush did the same thing and was retarded for it. Spending is not the answer. Decreasing the size of the federal government is. Obama is quite possibly the worst president this country has ever seen. He makes Jimmy carter look like a success. He's still allowing Israel and AIPAC to ram America up the ass.
Now that I've established that the economic mess we're in can't be blamed solely on Bush or the Republicans, (considering that many republicans opposed Bush's policies) the rest of your points are moot.
Because you haven't proven that. Check this out.
So you have a problem with the way Congress is run. Welcome to the majority.
Bush's economic policies and policies geared towards economic liberalism in general (Like those of the republican party) are what caused the clusterfuck that we're currently in.
There's a reason that nobody takes blogs very seriously, Slappy.
No, retard. I was explaining why effective legislation isn't being passed, and why you are wrong in saying that Obama couldn't garner enough votes from his own party to pass bills. He can garner those votes just fine, but the republicans present a united front in opposing almost anything the president supports, in some cases, even legislation that republicans came up with in the first place.
What do you mean it's time to stop blaming him? Obama should take responsibility for causing the recession? I don't think so.
The census taker jobs dropped off a while ago, and the rate of job loss per month is still far less than what it was when Bush left office.
Two years is enough to completely reverse the worst economic crisis since the great depression? On top of this, a great deal of the legislation meant to alleviate the situation has been filibustered. Europe and China are doing better than the U.S. right now. If that isn't an advert for increased government control of the economy, I don't know what is.
When did he promise anyone that he would flat out end the wars? If I remember correctly, he said that he would withdraw a certain number of troops by a certain date.
Nigger please. Nigger pleeeeaase.
Because we all know that when the president wants something, it immediately happens. :rolleyes:
That's because an economic stimulus involves spending money.
The slogan for deregulation should be "Maybe it'll be different this time!"
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AIPAC and American support for Israel is the reason that this continues. The president cannot force people to stop believing that Israel is our friend. Even if he could, what do you propose America does to stop a nuclear armed rogue state like Israel?
He can stop allowing ZOG to control us and he can stop threatening Iran and continuing Jewish wars in the Middle east. He could at least be honest about whats happening. But oh wait he needs there money and his Jew cabinet controls him.
As far as I know, all he's said regarding Iran is that a nuclear armed Iran would be unacceptable. Iran isn't attempting to acquire nuclear weapons, so I don't think it's much of a threat.
Besides, nobody can stop the U.S. supporting Israel while most American citizens think that they're our friend. You can't do it.
I dont believe there developing nukes either but would you agree that it's time the US stop telling country's they cant have nukes when were the only ones who have used them. Especially considering Israel can have them. Hell even if Iran got nukes and if they decided to use them against us our missile defense and air force could stop them before they left the ground. We need to stop policing the world.
Only old people and NASCAR fans give a shit about that.