Anarchy

DirtySanchezDirtySanchez Regular
edited December 2010 in Spurious Generalities
Anarchists are possibly the single most retarded group of people on the political spectrum imo. If there are any Anarchists here can you please explain to me how you think it could possibly work? It sounds all fine and nice on paper but Anarchy means no goverment. Unless you somehow got the whole world to agree to Anarchy what stops another country like China from just taking us over. What would prevent mob rule and mob justice from taking over? And to anyone who says capitalism is the cause of crime bullshit. Anarchy is me raping and murdering your mother for fun. Thats what Anarchy is. So Anarchists explain yourselves because I dont view any other political ideology as being as stupid as Anarchism is. And yes of read a shitload of stuff by Anarchists and about Anarchy and I still cant see any reason it could work. And if it cant realistically work why do you follow it? The only place it can work is in a small commune type setting and thats it.

I think people like emma goldman were just flat out retarded and shoudve been euthanized from everything Ive read of hers.

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  • DirtySanchezDirtySanchez Regular
    edited August 2010
    I like the idea of no rules and complete freedom but no matter what you did someone would take over as a ruler and it would most likely become a dictatorship or corrupt monarchy. There is no way to let people govern themselves and stay civilized in any way.

    That's the reason I love arguing with Anarchists because Im the first to admit I'd be that guy that makes it impossible. If there was no law or government first Id try to take over if that fail's I'd just do what I want. I understand my nature and human nature if there was no law whats to stop me from making beaner killing my hobby or something. The other problem is theres a certain percentage of humans that are psychopathic or otherwise mentally ill and would cause issues to. Well vigilanty justice couldnt solve that because then innocent people would surely be blamed and punished for something they didnt do far more often than now.
  • StephenPBarrettStephenPBarrett Adviser
    edited August 2010
    The truth of the matter is there will never be true anarchy. I think that it is simply in human nature to create, take down and recreate law and order. We have rules because we feel the need for them. Even those who would strive for anarchy would eventually concede to some sort of rule. When it takes place it can never last.
  • MayberryMayberry Regular
    edited August 2010
    Ideally, anarchy is society without government and everybody gets equal rights and liberties. However utopian this seems, it's impossible. Without some form of government, there will be chaos, not society. Eventually, somebody will take power and no more 'anarchy.'
  • DirtySanchezDirtySanchez Regular
    edited August 2010
    I just dont get why Anarchists continue to fight and argue for something thats just flat out impossible. Are they really that delusional.
  • edited August 2010
    Im the first to admit I'd be that guy that makes it impossible. If there was no law or government first Id try to take over if that fail's I'd just do what I want. I understand my nature and human nature if there was no law whats to stop me from making beaner killing my hobby or something. .

    That doesn't sound very christian.
  • FONFON Regular
    edited August 2010
    Yeah it doesn't work, yeah it probably never will unless we defer to the stone age....But the world still needs those delusional plebs calling themselves anarchists just to shake shit up every now and then....

    Libertarian Socialism is about the closest I'd go to anarchy.
  • JestAJestA Regular
    edited November 2010
    ]ummm hey bitch ........ u suck and all u stand for suckz! and so does jesus and jews hows dat so suck a fat 1 preferably a trany and hav a nice mutha fucking day....... das how we think u lil cock boy
  • DysgraphiaDysgraphia Locked
    edited November 2010
    It sounds cool. Anar-key.

    But the concept is fucking retarded. I love the 13 year old kids that go around supporting it.
  • DirtySanchezDirtySanchez Regular
    edited November 2010
    spazz wrote: »
    DYK: that 65% of the world lives in what we would call anarchy?

    ok i pulled that number out of my ass BUT its a valid point.

    (dont)Go take a drive through a mexican mountain town(the ones not on the maps with like 500-2500 people). they will have schools, phones(sometimes local only),electricity, but no police, no fire department, no city hall.NO PROBLEMS! Everything was chill on those towns untilll the army started attacking pot growers.

    I have never been to chili or argentina,or brazil But i bet its 10X more common there

    Just some food for thought.

    You know what other country is basically anarchy? Somalia. Sure it's fine I guess in a small town like your examples but anyone who thinks a country can survive on Anarchy is retarded.
  • RemadERemadE Global Moderator
    edited November 2010
    At heart I am an Anarchist, but I realise it's almost fucking impossible to accomplish. As you said ^ it is good on a local level, but nationwide? Pah.

    Also was at the MayDay protests earlier this year and these people were chanting the following, about 10 minutes apart:

    "Recognise Palestine as a State!"

    "No borders, no nations!"

    Eh? Tards.
  • skyclaw441skyclaw441 Regular
    edited November 2010
    Ha, I used to be into this, until I realized that there was no possible way that it could work. Granted, it could if everyone was a decent human being that respected the rights of others and dedicated themselves selflessly to the well being of their community, but we all know that most people wouldn't.
  • DirtySanchezDirtySanchez Regular
    edited November 2010
    skyclaw441 wrote: »
    Ha, I used to be into this, until I realized that there was no possible way that it could work. Granted, it could if everyone was a decent human being that respected the rights of others and dedicated themselves selflessly to the well being of their community, but we all know that most people wouldn't.

    I sure as hell wouldn't. I'd rob and kill people and laugh while the vigilante mobs arrest and kill the wrong guy because I'm hardcore like that:o
  • AurothAuroth Acolyte
    edited December 2010
    In the anarchist world, only the strongest survive ;) What do you think the humans would do if we were wild natural primitive creatures, without a civilization and a government. I am sure that we wouldn't kill anybody... maybe just for food or defense!
    Survival instincts would probably take over our minds! Maybe there would be riots, violence, murders & total chaos in the beginning... but then should we be so fucking free... you know, do whatever you wanna do ;) Btw! There are so many different directions of anarchism: National-Anarchism, Anarcho-capitalism, Anarchist communism, Anarcho-primitivism, Post-left anarchism, Anarcho-syndicalism etc :D
    And those anarchists who loves anything that has to do with chaos & destruction :P
  • DirtySanchezDirtySanchez Regular
    edited December 2010
    Auroth wrote: »
    In the anarchist world, only the strongest survive ;) What do you think the humans would do if we were wild natural primitive creatures, without a civilization and a government. I am sure that we wouldn't kill anybody... maybe just for food or defense!
    Survival instincts would probably take over our minds! Maybe there would be riots, violence, murders & total chaos in the beginning... but then should we be so fucking free... you know, do whatever you wanna do ;) Btw! There are so many different directions of anarchism: National-Anarchism, Anarcho-capitalism, Anarchist communism, Anarcho-primitivism, Post-left anarchism, Anarcho-syndicalism etc :D
    And those anarchists who loves anything that has to do with chaos & destruction :P

    You do realize that someone would be bound to seize power at some point right? Lets say the chaos did end after a while you can bet your ass there would be people plotting how to take over.
  • NegrophobeNegrophobe Regular
    edited December 2010
    Of course it would, the biker types, gangs, cartels and such people would take over.
    Might is right, will to power and all of that.
  • DirtySanchezDirtySanchez Regular
    edited December 2010
    Negrophobe wrote: »
    Of course it would, the biker types, gangs, cartels and such people would take over.

    I'm glad you brought up the cartels and bikers. I always wondered what someone like Auroth who thinks the chaos would be fine would do when he has some hardened Tijuana cartel members showing up to kill or rob him.

    All the sudden survival of the fittest would go out the door I'd think. I mean damn I have a pretty nice Arsenal of guns and ammo but I still wouldn't want to enter that situation.
  • NegrophobeNegrophobe Regular
    edited December 2010
    Of course until someone with an iron fist takes charge to stop it and prevent it, therefore no anarchism.
  • AurothAuroth Acolyte
    edited December 2010
    Keep on living your boring lives in this fucked up society... we are all slaves! I don't care, maybe I going to join some cartels or biker gang. And death is probably much more calmer than the life of the humanity!
  • NegrophobeNegrophobe Regular
    edited December 2010
    Auroth wrote: »
    Keep on living your boring lives in this fucked up society... we are all slaves! I don't care, maybe I going to join some cartels or biker gang. And death is probably much more calmer than the life of the humanity!

    Just because I'm not an anarchist doesn't mean I'm pro-political correctness or pro-current government. What do you do in life which is so exciting, huh?

    Save the rest of your babbling for revleft, because that shit won't wash on here with me. You're probably used to dealing with people you can just label as a fascist, where as I AM a fascist, which I'm sure you know very little about. Like I said, your utopian uneducated bullshit won't wash.
  • AurothAuroth Acolyte
    edited December 2010
    yeah yeah whatever... who cares anyway. But that what I trying to say, life seems be so boring you know... btw! I have nothing against fasicsm! I just wanna say I am sorry if you guys misunderstood me! Just be friend...OK!
  • AurothAuroth Acolyte
    edited December 2010
    Plz use your motherfucking brain sometimes... anarchy is fun, vandalism is fun, violence is fun, chaos is fun, destruction is fun... that's some things that makes life funnier.
    I can agree that anarchy will never occur, but what the hell why are you white power fanatics then, because it not going to happen either ... You see, we are and believe in something because we want it to happen.
    Most anarchists would no longer live in a society without government, and most people are against violence and stuff that used to belong anarchism ... it is sick of course, everything is all about damn certain morality & do everything right ... whatever you do, it is illegal, seriously everything that is funny is fucking illegal ffs .... and that is what I am most opposed to.
  • DirtySanchezDirtySanchez Regular
    edited December 2010
    Auroth wrote: »
    Plz use your motherfucking brain sometimes... anarchy is fun, vandalism is fun, violence is fun, chaos is fun, destruction is fun... that's some things that makes life funnier.
    I can agree that anarchy will never occur, but what the hell why are you white power fanatics then, because it not going to happen either ... You see, we are and believe in something because we want it to happen.
    Most anarchists would no longer live in a society without government, and most people are against violence and stuff that used to belong anarchism ... it is sick of course, everything is all about damn certain morality & do everything right ... whatever you do, it is illegal, seriously everything that is funny is fucking illegal ffs .... and that is what I am most opposed to.

    Thats seriously your argument? Ok would it be fun for you if I broke into your house one night with a gun and raped your mom while you had to watch then killed you? Since like violence is fun and all:rolleyes:

    This is a serious question. How old are you? With the anarchist and satanist stuff I'm guessing about 15 possibly 16. Whats sad is that you can't even come up with a reasonable argument aside from "cuz anurky is fun yo Im gon go spraypaint teh buildingzzz now LOLZZ":facepalm:
  • AurothAuroth Acolyte
    edited December 2010
    as the same reason that you are a pedophilie & stalin-wannabe it seems like you are 70+. Ain't that right, I guess that you like to beat down niggers, right... I guess that you also are a christian son of a bitch... look around the world stupid asshole, the world is full of violence!
  • Darth BeaverDarth Beaver Meine Ehre heißt Treue
    edited December 2010
    I sure as hell wouldn't. I'd rob and kill people and laugh while the vigilante mobs arrest and kill the wrong guy because I'm hardcore like that:o




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  • DirtySanchezDirtySanchez Regular
    edited December 2010
    Auroth wrote: »
    as the same reason that you are a pedophilie & stalin-wannabe it seems like you are 70+. Ain't that right, I guess that you like to beat down niggers, right... I guess that you also are a christian son of a bitch... look around the world stupid asshole, the world is full of violence!

    I'm not a Christian and Ive never beaten up a nigger in my life. Just because I'm racist dosnt mean I'm a living romper stomper character and I'm not 70:facepalm: I'm not a "Stalin wannabe" either. I support and agree with his ideals.
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    edited December 2010
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    Ever heard of Sarcasm?
  • AurothAuroth Acolyte
    edited December 2010
    Ever heard of Sarcasm?

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  • AurothAuroth Acolyte
    edited December 2010
    just kidding...sry ;D
  • Darth BeaverDarth Beaver Meine Ehre heißt Treue
    edited December 2010
    Ever heard of Sarcasm?


    Ever heard of claiming sarcasm after you make an ass of yourself as usual?
  • fanglekaifanglekai Regular
    edited December 2010
    Auroth wrote: »
    In the anarchist world, only the strongest survive ;) What do you think the humans would do if we were wild natural primitive creatures, without a civilization and a government. I am sure that we wouldn't kill anybody... maybe just for food or defense!
    Survival instincts would probably take over our minds! Maybe there would be riots, violence, murders & total chaos in the beginning... but then should we be so fucking free... you know, do whatever you wanna do ;) Btw! There are so many different directions of anarchism: National-Anarchism, Anarcho-capitalism, Anarchist communism, Anarcho-primitivism, Post-left anarchism, Anarcho-syndicalism etc :D
    And those anarchists who loves anything that has to do with chaos & destruction :P

    Free to do what, exactly? What's stopping you from using the internet, smoking, drinking, going out and getting wasted, fucking random bitches, traveling to other countries, getting wasted there, eating whatever you want whenever you want?

    What exactly are you not able to do now that you could do with anarchy?

    Anarchy would be fucking retarded. How the fuck would anyone get food to survive? People would have to band together for survival. You'd probably spend more time scrounging for food somewhere and half starving to death every day rather than "doing whatever you want." You'd also have to look out for all the rapists, murderers and thieves who would be going around doing what they aren't allowed to do right now because we have a justice system.

    Most of the population would die from starvation, riots and murder. Disease would come and more would die cause we wouldn't have medicine or science anymore. There'd be no progress, no internet, and most importantly, no porn.

    The fact that anarchy means no more porn means no guy should support it, ever.
  • MayberryMayberry Regular
    edited December 2010
    fanglekai wrote: »

    The fact that anarchy means no more porn means no guy should support it, ever.

    Must be a 10 year old who hasn't discovered porn yet :facepalm:
  • SlartibartfastSlartibartfast Global Moderator -__-
    edited December 2010
    Anarchism is the single most stupid political ideology. ever.

    If somehow Anarchism was to take place, things will eventually settle down into fiefdoms (after hell on earth) and we'll be no better off than we were in the feudal ages.
  • AurothAuroth Acolyte
    edited December 2010
    fanglekai wrote: »
    Free to do what, exactly? What's stopping you from using the internet, smoking, drinking, going out and getting wasted, fucking random bitches, traveling to other countries, getting wasted there, eating whatever you want whenever you want?

    What exactly are you not able to do now that you could do with anarchy?

    Anarchy would be fucking retarded. How the fuck would anyone get food to survive? People would have to band together for survival. You'd probably spend more time scrounging for food somewhere and half starving to death every day rather than "doing whatever you want." You'd also have to look out for all the rapists, murderers and thieves who would be going around doing what they aren't allowed to do right now because we have a justice system.

    Most of the population would die from starvation, riots and murder. Disease would come and more would die cause we wouldn't have medicine or science anymore. There'd be no progress, no internet, and most importantly, no porn.

    The fact that anarchy means no more porn means no guy should support it, ever.

    Anarchy will never happen so I don't understand why you make so much bullshit of it... seriously, if there would be some kind of domesday or a world wide riot... then it maybe should be anarchy... Who said that anarchy is against porn and everything you wrote? against a working society? huh!? As a anarchist, I support the freedom of speech. You maybe heard about TPB-lawsuit, were the owners got 1 year in prison and have to pay 46 millions. Indemnity for murder: 75,000 & Indemnity of rape: 50.000 dollars! That's just wrong! Anarchists is against injustice in the society! :angry:
  • jaconjacon Acolyte
    edited December 2010
    Yeah, anarchy is way to utopic so it will never happen in large scale, like a country, though anarchists are against the concept of country and all that.
    But in a minor scale, it's not impossible. Minor as in a community with 20 people lol.
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