-Spectral For Mod of Bad Ideas
Darth Beaver
Meine Ehre heißt Treue
I would like to nominate -Spectral for mod of Bad Ideas. He did a fine job of it over at Zoklet and he demonstrated his knowledge in this area on both Totse and Zoklet. There is currently no mod in that forum and it has the potential to draw new members if it is properly managed and contributed to.
I know there are those here who have some feud or another with -Spectral due to old drama from Zoklet. But I also know that -Spectral is mature enough to look past old bullshit in order to function as an impartial mod for Bad Ideas.
Please take a moment to vote in this poll and provide a small post to explain your vote.
P.S. Poll is open for ten days and results are public.
I know there are those here who have some feud or another with -Spectral due to old drama from Zoklet. But I also know that -Spectral is mature enough to look past old bullshit in order to function as an impartial mod for Bad Ideas.
Please take a moment to vote in this poll and provide a small post to explain your vote.
P.S. Poll is open for ten days and results are public.
Comments
I haven't even heard from SLIM in a while. Although back in the day he would have made a great mod, he isn't even active on these kinds of forums anymore to my knowledge.
Edit: haha nevermind he's negrophobe apparently
He still posts here but under a different name.
Which name?
@-Spectral: You can vote yes ya' know...
OK I can see that now...
I just don't pay a whole lot of attention to people's alts and such...
For completely derailing threads I can semi respect, but for just putting up a "lol
You lack self control in a position of authority & intimidation of regular members can be this forums downfall.
However on a good note:
You are an awesome contributor & a great asset to any forum (as a regular) Your post discussions are usually of interest, on my behalf anyways.
If you can show some self control as a demi-mod or some shit I'd perhaps reverse that vote. However! I'm a little sceptic @ this early stage.
That should apply to Bad Ideas though; that forum was pretty much one of the reasons Totse had so much traffic, publicity, infame, etc.
Over there on Zoklet is was mostly "herp derp I wana shoplift dem cheetoz, wat do?" kiddie bullshit. It was kind of solved when they made a subforum (HB style pretty much) for Bad Ideas, but still... that was the easy way out.
I am not sure why bornkiller voted as he did and he is not saying. As a Global Moderator it would be a good example of community leadership for him politely explain his reasoning.
As for My Mom is Dead I clearly recall bad blood between him an -Spectral from the time when -Spectral was a mod on Zoklet. Without a post from My Mom is Dead I can only assume that his vote had something to do with that.
C'mon' guys, you two are supposed to be community leaders please step up to the plate and walk the walk. Explain your votes in an honest mature fashion. Who knows, maybe you will change someones mind..
@-Spectral, While I sympathize with your logic I think you realize that procedures are in place for handling problem kiddies. Procedures that the entire community took part in crafting. If you were mod of BI and igored these procedures in favor of your own methods it would make you no better than FlabbyShark or Zos in that you would be placing yourself above the rules in favor of doing things your way.
I know you are slick enough to use the rules and procedures that are already in place to achieve the same ends results that your methods garner. But by taking the easy way out and ignoring the agreed upon methods you would only serve to give credence to the cause of those who would act in a manner that is counter-productive to the goals of this community.
As you have said before, "You have to hit above the belt". By discarding the methods that the community has agreed upon in favor of your shortcuts you would be tossing out the rules and cause yourself to play in the same mud pit as those you would see removed from play.
The problem here though is that this forum is supposed to be a place where the community has a real say in what happens. I agree derailing serious threads needs to be stopped but if you were to mod I think you would need to open your mind a little and take in others opinions as well. I still think you'd make an ok mod but you would have to respect the community's opinions as just as valid as your own./
You've got it a bit twisted here bud. I don't think anyone in the community is saying they want to permit wanton defacement of valid conversation for the sake of free speech. My understading, and I think most of the reasonable people will agree, is that we as a community do now want to see the type of power abuse take place here that is currently in place at Zoklet.
As a safeguard against that certain site wide policies and procedures have been agreed upon and implemented by the community. While these methods might take a day or two longer to remove the offending party they offer decent assurances that freedom of speech can be maintained without sacrificing intelligent conversation.
I mean if the guest posting is removed from the serious forums and mods are permitted to issue thread bans if a user insists upon a repeated effort to deface a thread then the best interests of both concerns can be served.
With a thread ban the conversation is protected from any further damage, the user is not banned from the site and is free to make another thread on the topic of whatever it is he wishes to discuss, the moderator is safe from accusation of power abuse, and the community keeps a member that might still be capable of being turned around.
Moderators can't be given the kind of carte blanche you are suggesting and you know why. Just look at Zoklet and guys like FlabbyShark, Zos, mksnowboarder, and ate (just to name a few). Everyone of these guys runs there forums there way and the hell with the site rules. Hell, for that matter they not only run things there way but they completely abuse the infraction system in order to remove users they don't like. You know, shit like giving someone a SPAMBOT infraction so the user they don't like get banned or permbanned.
All mods have to follow the same rules and guidelines that are set forth by the community. No mod can be "above the law". Now if you just don't want the mod position and are purposely saying these outlandish things just to make yourself look undesirable as a potential mod then you are doing a great job of it. But I know you well enough to know that you know better than what you have posted ITT.
STFU n00b -Spectral has been a part of the community since before you shit your first pamper.
Sorry Spectral, nothing personal, just politics.
Yeah, I am really disappointed in -Spectral's reaction to this thread. I am also confused. At Zoklet he fought against the very thing he is saying he would do if he were modded here. You can't just run things by your own opinions that is a dictatorship. With the thread ban in place there is no need for a heavy hand. Just sweep up the dirt and plug up the hole where it was tracked in. No harm no fould and no need to crush skulls.
-SpectraL has been like this for years. I think at zoklet, we just had a common enemy.
1. You applied a comparison between zos, Firestarter and I, when nothing in the records suggests, or even hints at, such a comparison should be entertained. My history is known to many, and it is a matter of public knowledge, and nothing in it points to the need for such a comparison, so I certainly would not give it the least amount of concern.
2. You assumed that I have not been down this very road not only on Zoklet, but also on the original Totse, as well as The Damage Done and The Revolt Press. You assumed I would be tolerant of the undermining which I have already seen and proven for myself to be in existence in even the most well-meaning of forums. You assumed that, after all I have been through and experienced for myself firsthand, that I would willingly walk into a situation where it would be sure to happen again.
3. You thought that I would afford credibility and weight to the opinion of the majority of community before community has even begun to make their intentions known, as if it would be an automatic thing that I would whole-heartedly accept whatever the majority of community wanted for a forum placed under my care and direction.
I appreciate your true intentions here... which was to give the Bad Ideas forum the best chance for survival and growth... but this thread makes a lot of assumptions which are not actually the case.
It is actually. Thanks for being honest.
I actually voted no just to piss you off.
I never mentioned Firestarter and I never compared you to anyone. I merely mentioned a few mods over a t Zoklet as an example of what happens when a mod is given free Riesling without checks an balances. So your first point is silly.
The only one making assumptions is you my friend in assuming I assumed anything about you. Whether or not you had been down any particular path at Zoklet or any were else never entered my mind. The only assumption I made was in assuming you were reasonable enough to understand the need for everyone to play by the same rules.
No you assumed I thought that. What I thought was that you would make a good mod for Bad Ideas. I see now that I was wrong. If you really think that being able to make the rules as you go and moderate with carte blanch is in anyway good for the community then I was obviously mistaken and for that I apologize.
Again he assumptions are almost entirely on your part. I only assumed that you were reasonable enough to moderate in this environment.
He has the right vision, his resume speaks volumes (despite the naysayers and their EMPTY rhetoric....funny how its STILL the usual gibberish, tap-dancing or chorus of crickets) and he's proven time and again he can be a fair if not soft person with a heart, all the while still giving people the benefit of the doubt and more than a second chance.
If anything Spectral was TOO easy/soft/complacent dealing with some of the more annoying and spastic kidiots. Hell, if Snoopy could could still spend as much time in PEOO as he did when Spectral was modding it proves he should have done MORE with his mod buttons.....not less.
I say give Spectral the mod badge, and insist on more bloodshed this time around....fuck being "nice" about it, we want a community of hardened adults, not babies needing to be coddled and placated with kid gloves.
Don't you ever tire of riding the same pony?
Ruh roh....and right after you started a thread in SG proclaiming "no butthurt grudges exist on Totse compared to Zoklet".
What is it Rodent, should I just stay off of any thread you post on....for fear of disagreeing with your brittle opinions?
InB4 another "unsubscription", and my entire day is ruined.
I don't need to make baseless accusations Spec...Your zoklet moderation record does that for you as does your philosophy on how to handle a moderator position in this thread,
global moderator.
We are not gods here, merely regulars with a few responsibilities. The members are the gods...not us. Without them this place is fucked. They make the decisions, not us. If I had my way I'd be resetting the poll back to "0" and get everyone to vote again. Since you're showing your true attitude in this thread.
shut your popcorn hole
Don't bark commands at me dumbass. It's not helping your campaign any. It makes you sound like a DICKtator.
Does it?
Again, provide SPECIFIC examples if they exist. Until then you are just prattling on with EMPTY bullshit. Plenty of people believe otherwise, and were absolutely content with the way he modded BI back on Zoklet.
You keep repeating it a thousand times how much you THINK his modding sucked, but we still see no examples of why. Why the fuck should anyone take YOUR word over all the other people that believe completely opposite?
Put up or shut up....